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Hi Tanul,
[edit]Welcome aboard. I read your post in the talk page of the Savarkar article. It's a wiki, be bold in editing, add content that is verifiable and is neutral point of view.
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-- Sundar 05:25, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)
You may want to check that a user is not a returning vandal before welcoming them and asking them to stay... ;) Seriously though, the real reason I left this note was to remind you to leave messages to people on their Talk page and not the User page. Welcome to the 'pedia! --Dante Alighieri | Talk 08:26, Mar 16, 2005 (UTC)
Greetings! I meant to leave you a note before I listed, but I appear not to have saved it; I apologize. Wikipedia requires all contributions be licensed under the GFDL, which is a bit different that just getting permission to use on Wikipedia. In the meantime I will assume that you have gotten permission to use it like this and remove the copyright violation notice. However, there is an article about him already at Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, which I am making your title redirect to. You might wish to merge the articles by adding new information about him that is from the article you contributed into the existing article. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 07:18, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Category:India
[edit]Hi Tanul. I notice that your user page has been slapped under category:India. Such categories are not meant for user pages but for articles related to India. So, I'm reverting it. Hope you don't mind. :-) -- Sundar (talk · contribs) 04:47, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
Public domain image problems
[edit]Hi there! I noticed that you have placed some of your image contributions in the public domain. Unfortunately, it turns out that one can't place their work in the public domain, and so these image tags have been deprecated. I encourage you to replace the public domain tags on your images with free-use tags, which are similar in spirit, such as {{CopyrightedFreeUse-User}}. Please reply on my talk page or Wikipedia talk: You can't grant your work into the public domain if you have any questions. Thanks. Deco 23:42, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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[edit]You are welcome. -- Sundar (talk · contribs) 09:12, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)
V D Savarkar
[edit]Hello, coming here from the article on V D Savarkar. I have deleted some copyrighted material that were copied from Outlook and other magazines. The article had most cut and paste from cpim website. I have tried to add the facts of the personality's life. Please check it and add anything that needs to be added. cheers.
Thanks for your contribution towards NPOV, anyways please add your username while adding comments. you can do so by adding ~~~~ as your signature.
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[edit]Of course you have the rights to your text (although you released it under the GFDL by posting it on Wikipedia). Wikipedia is dedicated to Encyclopedicity and we try to avoid essay style. You are perfectly free to publish your essays on your blog or homepage. To some extent, posting of essays and opinion pieces are also tolerated on Wikipedia User pages. regards, dab (ᛏ) 12:17, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
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[edit]Greetings, the holi-hangover continues! --Bhadani 07:22, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Metro Light Rail Merge Suggestion
[edit]You suggested that the articles on the specific Metro Light Rail stations, eg. Star City MLR station, Sydney be merged into the main Metro Light Rail page. You have made no suggestion as to why this should be the case. Personally I think there's no rationale at all - why is the Docklands Light Rail and its specific stations allowed when this one isn't. This is not a street tram line where the stops are listed - apart from 2 stations it is on dedicated track, so why should this be merged? (JROBBO 09:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC))
Does this user even reside in Sydney? Jarrod 04:38, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
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the rest of the definition or introduction (प्राचीन [[यूनानी धर्म]] (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन [[रोमन धर्म]] के सर्वोच्च देवता थे ।)For country names, only the standard short form of the name is needed in the first line. If there is a common name for a difficult word in Hindustani, also mention it. Whence: अपोलो (अंग्रेज़ी : en:Apollo; यूनानी : Aπollων अपोल्लोन) प्राचीन यूनानी धर्म (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन रोमन धर्म के सर्वोच्च देवता थे । If you don't give the interwiki English/another language link (which would be deemed to be the default reference), then you MUST provide an appropriate reference.- Please leave no article without an appropriate category. See the list of created categories here; you can also make a new category (pref. in Hindi). Please leave no article without at least ONE off page (like en:) interwiki link. E.g., the user can check the article name (say Apollo) on the finally redirected English page and append to the Hindi article (
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Thank you,
Cygnus_hansa 03:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
AJUDE A NOSSA ENCICLOPÉDIA PORTUGUESA!
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Hello Tanul, Abu Torsam has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Hi friend, as such i dont know how much active are you to wiki, but i found up your contributions to be very useful. & your are performing your best, i just came to know you are also an Alumini of RGPV, like me. so just adding an RGPV userbox to your profile(if u dont mind). & i would like to Learn & work with you on various projects here at Wikipedia( Abu Torsam 10:08, 6 October 2009 (UTC))
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The First WikiConference India is being organized in Mumbai and will take place on 18-20 November 2011. But the activities start now with the 100 day long WikiOutreach. As you are part of WikiProject India community we invite you to be there for conference and share your experience. Thank you for your contributions. We look forward to see you at Mumbai on 18-20 November 2011 |
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Vengeance 01 (talk) 12:09, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note - I'm leaving this alert on multiple other editors to make sure everyone is aware that editor behavior is closely watched on these articles. Vengeance 01 (talk) 12:09, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Minor edits
[edit] Hi Tanul! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at Tata Group that clearly was not a minor edit. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. -- Toddy1 (talk) 14:29, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Sure @Toddy1 --> It was my bad, I will redo the change without marking it as minor edit. Hope that helps. This is Tanul | Wanna Talk 10:56, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- I suggest you carefully explain your edit on the article talk page as a first step.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:30, 23 October 2023 (UTC)