User talk:Gregkar

Toyota Truck

Hey there -- we already have a very good article on Toyota. What are you planning to do with the Toyota Truck article that will make it essential? If you have good information, I think you could probably add it to the main Toyota article -- they'd be glad to see it. Madame Sosostris 22:14, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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There exists an entire subculture devoted to Toyota trucks. There are thousands of pages of data devoted solely to Toyota Trucks. We'll link to your page.

Thanx

There are thousands of pages of data devoted to many topics, but they don't necessarily need their own pages. I strongly suggest that you go over to Talk:Toyota and ask what you can do there to expand the article's information on Toyota trucks, rather than making your own article. Thanks. Madame Sosostris 22:41, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Also, I turned a few of your new pages into redirects -- when you're not going to put information on a page, and you just want to link to the main article, do this: #REDIRECT:[[Main article]]. Thanks. Madame Sosostris 22:50, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Can you show me how or post a link to a tuturial???

Thanx

Gregkar 19:07, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)

Here is the Wikipedia FAQ -- you can find the information you want under "Redirect." Madame Sosostris 23:38, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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Ty very much!

Merge truck to Hi-Lux?

Hello Gregkar! I just ran across Madame Sosostris's comments about the Toyota Truck page. My recommendation is that this information needs to be coördinated with the that on the Toyota Hi-Lux page. These trucks have always been nearly identical (except, of course, for the name) and there's significant advantage in grouping the foreign and native variants.

That being said, the standard around here is to put everything into the page for the natively named variant—in this case, that would be the Toyota Hi-Lux. The information you've got on this page is pretty incredible, however, and it wouldn't surprise me that we'd need to split the Hi-Lux page up, but I suspect that the right way to do that would be by splitting it up by generation, not market. The policy for all of this can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Automobiles/Proposed_naming_convention. I'm absolutely up for more discussion of the topic if you think otherwise. Please bring it up either here or on my talk page so I can keep track of it.

I'm going to presume that you have a lot of content ready for the Toyota Truck Service Data and Toyota Truck Maintenance pages. As far as I can tell, the proper place for these would be at Toyota Hi-Lux/Service data and Toyota Hi-Lux/Maintenance.

Also, don't take my criticism too harshly—I really wish someone had pointed all of this out to me when I first started! The work you've done so far on the Truck page is really genuinely good stuff, and I'm looking forward to seeing more from you later. I'd also like to invite you to formally join the Automobiles WikiProject.

Thanks! --Milkmandan 16:42, 2005 Jan 18 (UTC)

Reply to Merge to Hi-Lux

I agree in part, and disagree in part. When i created this page, I was unaware that there already existed a Toyota Hi-Lux page. I agree that the historical data needs to be merged and organized by model, not by market.

However, I have a special Italic textad hocItalic text purpose to get service, maintainence, and modification (hoit rodding) data available to the North American Toyota 4x4 enthusiast. The scope of my project is far too off-topic for teh general Toyota Corporate page or the Hi-Lux history page.

I will merge what I can and try to eliminate redunacy where possible.

You're welcome to help!

greg

Gregkar 19:03, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)

Understood about the service, maintenance, and modification pages. I've been tempted to throw together pages like this for some of the article's I've written (e.g., Toyota Camry and Toyota 4Runner) but I haven't yet found the right way to present this data in a way that reflects the Wikipedia's mission. I'm thinking, in specific, of how-to guides—my understanding is that the Wikipedia is meant to be informative instead of instructional. It's not at all unreasonable to start putting together how-to guides for servicing things, but this is a big departure from what we've got already, and probably warrants a discussion at the Automobiles WikiProject page, and possibly even at the main Wikipedia discussion pages. There are a lot of examples of things like this getting spun off into distinct projects (e.g., the Wikibook Cookbook) instead of being stored here. I think the general consensus is that if you wouldn't expect to see it in a paper-print encyclopedia, it needs to be discussed.

Also, the standard for discussion on talk pages is to only use new headings when a new topic is formed. Replies generally go beneath the current topic, and new entries are offset with several colons—one colon for the first reply, two for the second, etc.. --Milkmandan 18:30, 2005 Jan 18 (UTC)

Actually, on that note, the Wikipedia:Style and How-to Directory is the standard directory for style here. Additionally, it's standard to sign talk page entries with four tildes (this is automatically replaced by your username and date) so it's easy to track when changes are made. --Milkmandan 18:33, 2005 Jan 18 (UTC)

Ok, will look into that later when I have more time. The page is meant to be INFORMATIVE, not pendantic, intrucitonal, or a forum.

Gregkar 19:03, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)

Images

Greg- Just to warn you, we need a copyright release for all images on the Wikipedia. Government images are usually fine, but for anything that isn't explicitly released into the public domain or under a comparable license (GFDL, etc.) doesn't count. Certain images (such as photos used in press releases and advertisements) can sometimes count as fair-use, but that's about it. Otherwise, we can't use them. I've run into this problem in the past, and it's a real bummer. Of course, any photos you take yourself are absolutely fair game if you're willing to release them under a free license. --Milkmandan 01:21, 2005 Jan 19 (UTC)

OK, no problem. Please tell me what verbiage I need to add to make the pix acceptable, and how to do it.

Gregkar 01:32, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)

Sure! A list of examples is at image copyright tags. Just stick the appropriate template (e.g., {{GFDL}}) in the page for the corresponding image—simply follow the image over to its page and then hit the edit link. In cases where the image isn't obviously public-domain, it's generally polite to put a release from the copyright holder. A good example is at [1]. --Milkmandan 01:54, 2005 Jan 19 (UTC)

Welcome

Welcome to Wikipedia! I wrote the Toyota Hi-Lux article, and I'm sure happy to have someone who really cares about the subject to come in and join our effort! I don't know much about the Toyota pickups - I wrote the article because I had some info. Sounds like you're more of an enthusiast, and that's great. Welcome! --SFoskett 22:15, Jan 20, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you! I was thinking in terms of an integration plan to incorporate the pages to reduce redundancy. Your Hi-Lux page is very well done!

Gregkar 03:16, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)

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Reply to Image Source- I tagged it the other day. It's handled now.

Gregkar

Creating Articles w/ Categories

Good work creating new articles. When you create things, it helps tremendously to assign them to an accurate category (see WP:CG for info). If you're really not sure about categories, at least assign your new articles a stub category (see WP:SC for info). By assigning a category, you help make sure your new articles don't get lost as 'orphans' that are not associated with related topics. Feco

Thanx for the tip!

Gregkar

More images

These images have GFDL notices ({{GFDL}}) and were uploaded by you:

Did you originally take these photos? Most appear to be from other sources. You cannot relicense images that are not your own. Additionally, these images:

Have some rather complex licenses that do not seem to be compatible with Wikipedia. —Mulad (talk) July 1, 2005 08:15 (UTC)

These images are now listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images —Mulad (talk) July 1, 2005 19:26 (UTC)

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In each instance, I either own the image outright, or have knowledge that it is freely available in the public domain, or know that it is available under the Fair Use doctrine. In one instance, I cite and link back to the copyright holder's public use license and cite their permission for non-comercial use. On the copyright protected images that I own, don't hold your breath for me to liberalize the license. There's nothing complex about a limited non-commerical use revokable license. It's generous enough that I've granted the revokable license already in existance.

Gregkar

Non-commercial, revokable licenses

Hi, Greg. Thanks for uploading images. :) I wanted to check in with you about the licenses on Image:Peterbilt Model 359 Semi-End-Dump.jpg and Image:Peterbilt Model 359 Transfer Dump.jpg. Having a license which is not free makes it very difficult to use these images in Wikipedia. We prefer the use of the GFDL license, which requires attribution and requires that any modified versions of the image are also licensed under the GFDL. The notice on the upload page indicates that if you hold the copyright to a picture, you must license it under the GFDL or release it into the public domain. If you're not willing to do one of these things with your photos, they'll be deleted from Wikipedia.

Thanks again for your contributions. :) kmccoy (talk) 04:32, 16 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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