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Cover Art

When it says John Heartfield did the cover art does it mean this John Heartfield. I assume not as he died long ago, or did they use one of his photos. --Ehouk1 21:47, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Album editions

It states that the self titled album has Storaged and Marmalade on some editions. Anyone know what editions?

The article states that 'Marmalade' is on the European versions, but I've got the European version (bought from amazon.co.uk, not an american import) and it ends with PLUCK. 86.129.213.115 16:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Album's Genre

All of the songs (except "Mind") have this verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus thing that makes it nu-metal stuff. The guitar tuning (Drop C) is also very popular in nu-metal. The screaming-rap is also an element in nu-metal. I know the band doesn't consider itself as a nu-metal band, but actually it's actually because MOST of their songs have no genre (like Aerials, Hypnotize, Lonely Day, BYOB, Roulette, Streamline...) but actually THIS album is quite the same genre, and it's not alternative, because they don't consider themselves as an alternative band either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.249.67 (talk) 18:58, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't really matter what the band categorizes themselves as. It's what notable music critics label the band as, and that by and large is hard/heavy rock/metal, alternative rock/metal, and progressive/experimental. Songs such as Spiders undoubtedly fit in as 'alternative'. I will not revert you, as I believe the original album does exhibit Nu metal (by the secnd album it was gone), but Skater or Sugarbear (I think that's Ibaranoff's new username) may disagree with that choice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Floydian (talk • contribs)

This is all opinion, particularly in relation to the guitar tuning (you've confused drop C with drop A, which the band doesn't use, especially not with any 7-string guitars), and there's no rapped or rap-like vocals, and no evidence that that is a common element of nu metal. And the sources say art rock, hard rock, heavy metal and alternative metal. (Sugar Bear (talk) 21:03, 9 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]

this album is in no way progressive or experimental, and it's not art rock either, infact this album is probably the closet SOAD ever came to being nu metal as it utilises drop d tuning which is commonly associated with nu metal and it also features serj rapping in sugar and a few other songs, therefore the only genre in the infobox should be alternative metal. Actually none of SOAD'S stuff is really that progressive or experimental, calling them that just seems like something a fan of the band would say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by I call the big one bitey (talk • contribs) 10:16, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this album is in no way heavy metal, but the genre is still there. --Engalazillo (talk) 09:01, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

... You don't think this is metal? — Richard BB 10:26, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Heavy metal? No. Nu metal? Maybe. --Engalazillo (talk) 14:02, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're aware, aren't you, that nu metal is a sub-genre of heavy metal? Something can't be nu metal without being heavy metal. It is, after all, metal... — Richard BB 14:16, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm well aware of that, but then why don't all the other bands that play different variations of metal have "heavy metal" as main genre too? Take as an example bands like Dream Theater or Dying Fetus, or even some commercial ones like Linkin Park- their genres are all a product of heavy metal. I think this may be because they sound nothing like heavy metal, and this CD sounds nothing like it either. This is all what I'm trying to say. --Engalazillo (talk) 18:14, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sugar

I've seen sources dating its single release date as September 27... but the one that's there now is May, and I've seen sources that support that. What do we do? I want to help make it as accurate as possible. DannyMusicEditor (talk) 21:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Soil ((System of a Down))" listed at Redirects for discussion

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