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December 12

Portal:Current events/2024 December 12

December 12, 2024 (2024-12-12) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine Four on duty police officers are injured in a drone attack on the barracks of a police regiment building in Grozny, Chechnya, Russia. (Kyiv Independent) Disasters and accidents 2024-25 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season Tropical Cyclone Chido makes landfall over Agaléga, Mauritius. (Crisis24)

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December 11

Portal:Current events/2024 December 11

December 11, 2024 (2024-12-11) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Somali Civil War Constitutional crisis in Somalia 2024 Jubaland presidential election 2024 Battle of Ras Kamboni Somali forces launch a failed attack on Jubaland regional forces, with Jubaland capturing hundreds of Somali soldiers and claiming to have fully taken over Ras Kamboni, Lower Juba, Somalia. (Reuters) (Idil News) (Garowe Online) Russo-Ukrainian War Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine The United States Department of State approves a $266.4 million sale of F-16 maintenance equipment to Ukraine. (Ukrainska Pravda) (DSCA) (Newsweek) The Parliament of Canada approves the allocation of CA$764 million (US$587 million) in military aid to Ukraine. (Ukrainska Pravda) Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Siege of North Gaza At least 29 people are killed in Israeli airstrikes on civilian areas in Beit Lahia, North Gaza Governorate, Gaza. (Al Jazeera) A boy is killed and three others are injured in a mass shooting when a man opens fire on a bus in Al-Khader, West Bank. (The Times of Israel) Syrian civil war Fall of the Assad regime Armed men raid and set fire to the tomb of former president Hafez al-Assad and also conduct attacks on other tombs and graves in Qardaha District, Latakia Governorate, Syria. (SOHR) Sectarianism and minorities in the Syrian civil war The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights urges Syria's military leadership to prevent ongoing sectarian riots, looting, and assaults on civilians from armed groups. (SOHR) Islamic State–Taliban conflict Afghanistan's acting Minister of Refugee and Repatriation Khalil Haqqani and five other people are killed in a suicide bombing at the Ministry's headquarters in Kabul, Afghanistan. (Reuters) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Five civilians are killed in Israeli airstrikes in Ainata, Bint Jbeil, and Beit Lif, Lebanon, despite the agreed ceasefire with Hezbollah. (Al Jazeera) Sudanese civil war Amnesty International reports that Sudan is currently facing the worst humanitarian crisis in the world, with over 30 million people at risk or in need of humanitarian aid. (DW) Disasters and accidents One person is killed in a fire and explosion at a residential high-rise apartment building in Shenzhen, China. (Reuters) Health and environment Environmental issues in Iran Iran announces that all government offices, universities, and schools in Tehran province will be closed for two days due to severe air pollution. (AP) Politics and elections 2024 South Korean martial law A special investigations team conducts a raid on South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol's office, the National Police Agency headquarters, the Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency headquarters, and the office of the National Assembly's security service, as part of an investigation into Yoon's failed attempt at imposing martial law last week. (DW) Jailed former national defense minister Kim Yong-hyun, who allegedly helped President Yoon Suk Yeol impose martial law, attempts suicide while in custody. (BBC News) Sports 2034 FIFA World Cup FIFA announces that Saudi Arabia will host the 2034 FIFA World Cup. (Khaleej Times)

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RD: David Bonderman

Article: David Bonderman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Economic Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American billionaire businessman. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 02:25, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Khalil Haqqani

Article: Khalil Haqqani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS News
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Taliban minister for refugees, killed in a suicide bomb. Article is only included day of death by not means, needs updating. Masem (t) 13:37, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Lead ok, size ok, sources ok, death confirmed by reliable sources. Grimes2 (talk) 16:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support as updates related to the death are good and well-sourced, and the article doesn't seem to need cleanup.

~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 16:57, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Support Ok now Bremps... 19:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• I've done a bit of clean-up of the article, principally adding an archive-URL for one of the main sources that had gone dead. That showed that there is uncertainty when he was born, with an eight-year span. There was coding in the infobox that he was 58 by the time he died and I don't know whether that was put there because the article had a birthdate of 1 Jan 1966 shown, or whether there is a reliable source for that age. If there is, it would be worth tidying up the birth year range before this gets posted. If there isn't a RS, then it's ready as is. Schwede66 03:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

December 10

Portal:Current events/2024 December 10

December 10, 2024 (2024-12-10) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war 2024 Syrian opposition offensives Operation Dawn of Freedom 2024 Manbij offensive The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) reports that pro-Turkish factions have begun revenge operations involving the identity-based killings of at least three Kurdish civilians in Manbij, Aleppo Governorate, Syria, as well as burning and looting civilian homes. (SOHR) Pro-Turkish factions impose a siege on several neighborhoods in Manbij, prompting humanitarian concerns of potential massacres and kidnappings. (SOHR) The SOHR reports that the Free Syrian Army-affiliated Dawn of Freedom Brigades performed a field execution of dozens of injured pro-Kurdish Manbij Military Council soldiers who had been receiving hospital treatment. (SOHR) Deir ez-Zor offensive The Military Operations Command says that its forces have taken full control of Deir ez-Zor following days of clashes with the Syrian Democratic Forces. (Trend News Agency) Israel and the Syrian civil war 2024 Israeli invasion of Syria Regional security sources report that Israeli troops have reached the city of Qatana in Rif Dimashq Governorate, 10 km into Syrian territory and 25 km southwest of Damascus. (Reuters) The Israeli Navy attacks and destroys most of the Syrian Navy's fleet at anchor in the Port of Latakia, including Osa-class missile boats and minesweepers. (MSN) (Naval News) Qatar, Turkey, Egypt, Iran, and Saudi Arabia condemn Israel's actions in Syria and the United Nations special envoy for Syria calls on Israel to stop its military movements and bombardments inside Syria. (The Times of Israel) Eastern Syria insurgency The Islamic State summarily executes 54 Syrian Army soldiers captured near Al-Sukhnah, Homs Governorate. (SOHR) Israel–Hamas war Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip The United Nations reports that humanitarian aid has been blocked from entering the Gaza Strip for at least 66 days, leaving at least 65,000 Palestinians without food, water, electricity, and healthcare. (AP) Sudanese civil war Battle of Khartoum At least 65 people are killed and hundreds of others are injured in Rapid Support Forces artillery shelling on a market in Karary District, Khartoum State, Sudan. (Anadolu Agency) (Sudan Tribune) Darfur campaign At least 100 people are killed and 37 others are injured in a Sudanese Air Force airstrike on Kabkabiya District, North Darfur, Sudan. (Business Recorder) (Sudan War Monitor) (BBC News) Russian invasion of Ukraine Southern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine A Russian missile strike on a private clinic in Zaporizhzhia, Ukraine, kills four civilians and injures 20 others. (Interfax Ukraine) (Al Arabiya) Insurgency in Balochistan One Pakistani soldier and 15 separatist militants are killed in an operation in Zhob District, Balochistan, Pakistan (Arab News) Disasters and accidents 2024 California wildfires In Malibu, California, United States, the Franklin Fire spreads to more than 2,800 acres, prompting over 20,000 people to evacuate. (KABC-TV) International relations Switzerland–Syria relations Refugees of the Syrian civil war Switzerland suspends all new and pending asylum requests and announces that they will review their asylum policy following the fall of the Assad regime. (The Economic Times) Belarus–Russia relations, Nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko confirms the presence of nuclear weapons in his country, including Russia's Oreshnik missile system. (AP) Law and crime The Russian Federal Security Service arrests a German-Russian man for allegedly planning to sabotage a rail line in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia, on behalf of the Security Service of Ukraine. (DW) Politics and elections Kenya Police fire tear gas at hundreds of demonstrators in Nairobi, Kenya, protesting against gender-based violence and femicide. Protests also took place in Mombasa and Lodwar, with at least three people arrested. (Al Jazeera) (Africanews)

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RD: Michael Cole

Article: Michael Cole (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1], [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit) and Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 06:38, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose for missing citations for filmography and for the body statements including a presumed TV Guide quote about Mod Squad. If sufficient citations are added, consider this support.

~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 16:59, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Kreskin

Article: Kreskin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:F917:2081:847F:CE12 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Wellington Bay (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American mentalist. 240F:7A:6253:1:F917:2081:847F:CE12 (talk) 04:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Rocky Colavito

Article: Rocky Colavito (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 04:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Not Ready Multiple CN tags. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:20, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: S. M. Krishna

Article: S. M. Krishna (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4] [5]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Srf123 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Srf123 (talk) 04:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Some parts of the article are still unsourced. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 05:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Support The unsourced sections have now been sourced. Article is ready for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support No issues. Grimes2 (talk) 19:35, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support per above TheHiddenCity (talk) 2:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• The date of birth is unreferenced. Schwede66 03:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

December 9

Portal:Current events/2024 December 9

December 9, 2024 (2024-12-09) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war 2024 Syrian opposition offensives Operation Dawn of Freedom 2024 Al-Mustariha massacre The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reports that a Turkish drone strike on the village of Al-Mustariha in Raqqa Governorate, Syria, kills eleven family members, including six children. (SOHR) 2024 Manbij offensive The opposition Syrian National Army takes control of the city of Manbij, with 50 people killed in fighting between the Syrian National Army and the Syrian Democratic Forces. (LiveUA) (The Jerusalem Post) (SOHR) Fall of Damascus Fall of the Assad regime Lieutenant General Ali Mahmoud, Maher al-Assad's office manager and leader of several Syrian civil war campaigns, is found dead in his office in a suburb of Damascus. (SOHR) (Naharnet) The White Helmets civil defense organization announces they have freed over 20,000 prisoners from Sednaya Prison, with over 10,000 others unaccounted for. They report that there are areas of the prison hidden underground that they do not have access codes to, but can see prisoners on security cameras. (Reuters) (Al Jazeera) Israel and the Syrian civil war 2024 Israeli invasion of Syria Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz orders the Israeli Defense Forces to quickly occupy the entire Syrian buffer zone and to establish a new security zone further into southern Syria free of all insurgent infrastructure and heavy weapons. (Israel Hayom) The Israeli Air Force launches several airstrikes on the city of Daraa and also carries out a series of airstrikes on Syrian Air Force bases, destroying the Syrian Air Force's entire fleet of MiG-29 fighter jets. (Erem News) (VIN News) Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip, Blockade of the Gaza Strip At least 50 Palestinians are killed and 84 others are injured in Israeli airstrikes across the Gaza Strip, including ten at a flour distribution zone in Rafah. (Al Jazeera) Israeli–Palestinian peace process The Hamas delegation holds another round of ceasefire talks in Cairo, Egypt, with General Intelligence Service chief Hassan Mahmoud Rashad. (APA) Haitian crisis At least 110 elderly people are killed in Cité Soleil, Haiti, following accusations by a gang leader that the people practiced witchcraft against the gang leader's child. (France24) Myanmar civil war The Arakan Army announces their capture of Maungdaw, Rakhine State, giving them full control over the Bangladesh–Myanmar border. (AP News) Sudanese civil war Twenty-eight people are killed and 37 others are injured in a bombing on a petrol station in Mayo, Khartoum, Sudan. (The Peninsula) (Ommcom News) Disasters and accidents 2024 Kanlaon eruption PHIVOLCS raises the alert level of the Kanlaon Volcano in the Philippines to Level 3 after an explosive eruption occurred at the summit vent. (Rappler) 2024 The Hague explosion The rescue operation at the scene of an explosion at several apartments in The Hague, Netherlands, two days ago, officially ends, with the final toll being six people killed and five others injured. (Euronews) Five people are killed and 26 others are injured after an explosion at an Eni factory in Calenzano, Metropolitan City of Florence, Italy. (Rai News) Ten people are killed and two others are missing in floods and landslides in Sukabumi, West Java, Indonesia. (AP) A fishing boat collides with a sand barge near Gyeongju, South Korea, killing seven people with another person missing. (AP) Two military helicopters collide during a training flight in Isparta, Turkey, killing six soldiers. (Daily Sabah) (AP) At least seven people are killed and 42 others are injured when a bus rams into several vehicles and pedestrians in Mumbai, Maharashtra, India. The bus driver is detained by local police. (DW) (The Indian Express) International relations Austria–Syria relations, Germany–Syria relations Refugees of the Syrian civil war Austria and Germany announce that they will freeze all new and ongoing asylum applications by Syrians and will review previous asylum claims by Syrians following the fall of the Assad regime. (Euronews) Australia–Nauru relations Australia and Nauru announce a joint security treaty that will see Australia sending Nauru AU$100 million (US$64 million) in direct support over five years in exchange for Nauru consulting Australia before signing any bilateral agreements with other countries. (DW) (Nikkei Asia) Law and crime Killing of Brian Thompson A suspect is arrested in Altoona, Pennsylvania, United States, for the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. (CNN) China launches an investigation into American chip manufacturer Nvidia over suspected violations of China's anti-monopoly law. (CNA) 2024 Indian bomb hoaxes At least 40 schools in New Delhi, India, receive bomb threats and a $30,000 ransom demand via e-mail on the same day. No evidence of explosives are found. (DW) (BBC News) Politics and elections 2024 Azad Kashmir protests The local government of Azad Kashmir, Pakistan, repeals an executive order that banned protests following four days of shutter-down demonstrations in May. (Al Jazeera) (Daily Express) 2024 South Korean martial law The South Korean Corruption Investigation Office imposes a blanket travel ban on President Yoon Suk Yeol for his failed attempt at imposing martial law last week. (Al Jazeera) (Kyodo News) Syrian peace process Syrian opposition leader Mohammed al-Bashir is appointed Prime Minister of the Syrian transitional government. (Al Jazeera) Prime Minister of Tonga Siaosi Sovaleni resigns ahead of a vote of no confidence. (Reuters)

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RD: Mazen al-Hamada

Article: Mazen al-Hamada (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Syrian activist. Body found 9 December. Thriley (talk) 17:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose - a few unresolved CN tags, and the article might need a spot check or two to fix a few oddly worded sentences. Article has been updated sufficiently however. Departure– (talk) 17:24, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Nikki Giovanni

Article: Nikki Giovanni (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WDBJ7
Credits:

• Nominated by Innisfree987 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American poet. Prose is well-referenced but many awards and works need references. Innisfree987 (talk) 03:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose for now lacks inline citations for awards and works, as stated. Also, it appears external links are inappropriately used in the body of the article. Other than that, plenty of sources and of a good length. Departure– (talk) 03:19, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) RD: Ali Mahmoud Abbas

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Article: Ali Mahmoud Abbas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): (LBC Group)
Credits:

• Nominated by QalasQalas (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: His death was reported on X after 11 hours Syrian Observatory for Human Rights confirmed in a safe house in the Damascus countryside.

Well sourced and covered deserves nomination

• Oppose The article has no details of the death which might be expected in the circumstances. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:50, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

@Andrew Davidson Considering as developing story, would it be on a presumed death. QalasQalas (talk) 12:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

• Wait Unconfirmed other than some videos on Twitter that may or may not be him. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:11, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose we should never use social media as a source. Abcmaxx (talk) 16:29, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• oppose a quick google search provides 0 articles talking about his death, if it happened at all. Scuba 17:19, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Rumors and a dubios video. Grimes2 (talk) 17:23, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Strong oppose until his death is confirmed by literally any other source. His article states he's still alive. Departure– (talk) 17:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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Siaosi Sovaleni

Article: Siaosi Sovaleni (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Prime Minister of Tonga Siaosi Sovaleni resigns ahead of a vote of no confidence. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, ABC News (Australia), AP News
Credits:

• Nominated by Moraljaya67 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: His article has 30 references, but the resignation of head of government is enough for posting. Moraljaya67 (talk) 13:30, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article is hardly updated with only one sentence in the body about the resignation. Maybe an article about this apparent political crisis would be preferable to the article about the PM himself, but a head of government resigning appears notable enough for ITN. Departure– (talk) 17:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per Departure– adds separate article QalasQalas (talk) 17:59, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Eras Tour ends

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Article: The Eras Tour (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ American singer-songwriter Taylor Swift's concert tour, The Eras Tour, concludes in Vancouver, Canada, becoming the highest-grossing tour of all time and the second-most attended after 149 shows. (Post)
News source(s): The Canadian Press
Credits:

• Nominated by Rushtheeditor (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Historic tour with a rich socioeconomic and cultural legacy, even if you do not like her this is a defining cultural moment. User:Rushtheeditor (talk) 01:01, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose No precedent for posting the end of events generally, let along individual musicians' tours. Factoids are DYK candidates. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The end of the tour is not the type of aspects we'd post at ITN (we dont even post retirements outside of government leaderships), and the fact it is the highest-grossing is mostly trivia. --Masem (t) 04:50, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose No series of connected note worthy, unexpected things occurred during the tour making the tour itself infamous to get its end posted. Just like one of the things that made Notre Dame's reopening note worthy for ITN was the reason it got closed- fire. Things like facts could be posted on DYK as suggested above. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 05:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 05:42, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose As much as I like Taylor Swift, the end of her tour isn't necessarily news Dyaquna (talk) 05:48, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Comment We did post Avengers: Endgame record as the highest-grossing film, not sure what makes this aymore DYK than that. Gotitbro (talk) 07:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

I was not aware of that posting, but I would be 100% against it. Natg 19 (talk) 07:57, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose and close is not the type of content that should be posted on Main Page. Not ITN-worthy. _-_Alsor (talk) 09:41, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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(Closed) Rupert Murdoch succession judgment

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Article: Succession of Rupert Murdoch (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nevada court probate commissioner hands down judgment against Rupert Murdoch and his son Lachlan in their bid to change the irrevocable family trust, which would remove voting powers from Lachlan's siblings (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A Nevada court probate commissioner rules against Rupert Murdoch and his son Lachlan in their attempt to alter the Murdoch family trust, which would have given Lachlan full control of News Corp.
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Laterthanyouthink (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Significant shift in powerful media empire at stake, including Fox News and News Corp

p.s. It's 10 December here in Australia, and not sure whether this should be posted on that date as it's late in the day in the US already?

• Oppose A family dispute is not notable for ITN. Grimes2 (talk) 22:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose "Court makes judgement about family matter", this is news? The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 22:18, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

It's not any ordinary family dispute. The ramifications are huge. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 22:18, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose local court makes procedural decision This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 22:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Strong oppose Ultimately unimportant news about a private corporation. Departure– (talk) 22:28, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Just to answer the submitter question, we go by the date in the region the event happened, not your local date. So this is currently correct as Dec 9. Masem (t) 22:39, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

  Okay, thank you.

  I don't know how many of the opposers have followed the saga or understand the ramifications, but this family, specifically Rupert and his son Lachlan, help to shape the political landscape in the US and Australia. Rupert is no ordinary media businessman in the background - he actively determines the editorial lines in his media empire, and Americans should understand the influence of Fox, as Australians understand the influence of Sky News and his daily newspapers and media outlets in Australia (almost a monopoly). This is why this case is notable. The voting rights of the other siblings - much more moderate politically - could have huge impacts on the directions of Fox and News Corp, which in turn have huge influence on politics, and issues such as climate change, and thus energy policy, etc. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 23:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

  Not like Fox is going anywhere. Departure– (talk) 00:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Newsworthy? Yes, to some extent, but not sufficient for it to go on ITN. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 23:42, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support As Laterthanyouthink pointed out, more important than anything we have run on ITN lately. Far more important that the latest wars in the Middle East. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:50, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  I don't know, the collapse of the Assad Regime, one of the most repressive and brutal dictatorships on Earth, does seem a bit more important than Murdoch's FOX News getting held to its own legal contracts it had previously agreed to. Departure– (talk) 01:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  Not on the planet I am standing on. Only a fraction of the COVID deaths in the United States under the Trump regime, and the estimated three million deaths annually due to climate change. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:11, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  Trump didn't cause climate change nor COVID. I'm not going to lie and admit he was at all blameless nor say he didn't do anything to worsen the impacts of both, but COVID was going to happen anyway, and climate change started well before Trump took office - he was only party to legislation and the nation's response to both, even if Murdoch's Fox was very influential to Trump's support and ideologies. This isn't Fox suddenly shutting down, it's Fox's upper management getting held to it's own legal agreements that it agreed to - hence the name, agreement. Right wing news media is not going to die suddenly and this shouldn't be seen as it's sudden death. Departure– (talk) 01:16, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Agree with others. Not a major news story. And I am doubtful that Fox News is going to change much, even with the outcome of this case. But even if Fox News suddenly became a "moderate" or "left-wing" news organization, this issue is of limited scope and not relevant to much of the world. Natg 19 (talk) 01:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Created altblurb and cleaned up nom, if it does get posted. Natg 19 (talk) 01:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

There has been, and continues to be speculation that the empire will break up, and that Fox may get sold off. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 05:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Great! Let's post this when Fox breaks up or is sold off. Departure– (talk) 13:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support As someone else mentioned, there are big ramifications to this. Murdoch influences votes wherever he operates (and that isn't just the USA). It is expected that this ruling will lead to a softening in the Murdoch empire's rabid support for hard right politicians and parties. HiLo48 (talk) 01:53, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
  • We should not be CRYSTAL guessing at importance of stories withoit sources that actually give such claims. — Masem (t) 14:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose at this time, as the appeal is already announced. This is the score at end of the first quarter of the game. Post when the last court speaks, not the first. Hyperbolick (talk) 07:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  This being appealed means that this is not even the end of the legal side of this saga, let alone the fact that even before this it was hardly important. Departure– (talk) 14:11, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose private dispute that has kept the status quo. There's little immediate impact, except for the family and their lawyers. Of course this is an influential organisation and who runs it does matter, but this court ruling isn't significant enough to merit an ITN blurb. Modest Genius ^talk 15:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose seems very trivial compared to anything we have run on ITN lately. And that's before considering that this is a pretty low-level court on a private family matter. Nfitz (talk) 17:03, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Per all above, surprised this nomination hasn't been closed yet Hungry403 (talk) 18:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Two or more rounds of appeals still left. Let's consider once it's gone through the full judicial process. Khuft (talk) 18:56, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support will have a massive impact on the Anglosphere, this bloke is practically a king maker in the US, UK, and Australia, ITN should cover what could be the collapse of his media empire Kowal2701 (talk) 19:52, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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December 8

Portal:Current events/2024 December 8

December 8, 2024 (2024-12-08) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war 2024 Syrian opposition offensives Fall of Damascus Fall of the Assad regime Syrian President Bashar al-Assad leaves the country on a flight from Damascus International Airport to Moscow, Russia. (BBC News) (Al Jazeera) Russian state media reports that Bashar al-Assad is in Moscow, and that he and his family have been granted asylum by the Russian government. (Euronews) (Sky News) Senior Syrian government officials are reportedly in talks with the Syrian opposition and are preparing to defect. (CNN) Syrian Prime Minister Mohammad Ghazi al-Jalali says that he is not leaving Syria and will commit to a peaceful transition of power to the Syrian opposition. Al-Jalali also calls on rebel forces to not damage state institutions in Damascus or to harm civilians. (Axios) The Syrian Army says that Bashar al-Assad's rule has ended and orders all of its troops to lay down arms and stop fighting. (Reuters) Syrian rebels seize state television and announce to the nation that Bashar al-Assad has been toppled and that a new government will be formed. (Xinhua) Rebel forces seize the Presidential Palace in Damascus, which is later looted by armed soldiers and civilians. (The Guardian) (Al Arabiya) Rebel forces take control of Sednaya Prison and begin releasing thousands of prisoners, including many political prisoners. (Barron's) Thousands of Damascus residents gather in Umayyad Square to celebrate the collapse of the Assad regime. (BBC News) A video posted to X shows Syrians tearing down posters of former Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah and former Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commander Qasem Soleimani at the Iranian embassy in Damascus. Statues of former president Hafez al-Assad are also toppled across the city. (Al Bawaba) (Madhyama Online) Syrians abroad celebrate the collapse of the Assad regime, with rallies being held in cities across Europe. (France24) (The Guardian) 2024 Manbij offensive, Operation Dawn of Freedom Turkish security sources claim that 80% of Kurdish-held positions in the city of Manbij in Aleppo Governorate have been taken by the Turkey-backed Syrian National Army. (Türkiye Today) Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan threatens "appropriate measures" against Kurdistan Workers' Party-aligned rebel groups, and states that Turkey will never allow these groups control over any part of Syria or its government. (Shafaq) Deir ez-Zor offensive Syrian regime forces reportedly surrender Deir ez-Zor to opposition forces, according to Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham. (BBC News) Israel and the Syrian civil war 2024 Israeli invasion of Syria Israeli tanks and troops enter Syria's Quneitra Governorate to reportedly establish a buffer zone, marking Israel's first crossing of the ceasefire line in 50 years. (The Times of Israel) (Al Jazeera) Israeli forces take control of the towns of Madinat al-Baath and Khan Arnabah in Quneitra Governorate and also capture the Syrian side of Mount Hermon in Rif Dimashq Governorate. (Factjo) (The Times of Israel) The Israeli Air Force launches targeted airstrikes on ammunition and equipment depots at Mezzeh Air Base in Damascus and Khalkhalah air base in Suwayda Governorate. An Israeli airstrike also targets the Scientific Research Center in Damascus's security zone, which oversees chemical weapons and ballistic missile programs. (Reuters) (Sada El-Balad) (Al Jazeera) Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says that the 1974 Agreement on Disengagement between Israel and Syria has "collapsed" and orders the Israel Defense Forces to occupy the Syrian side of the Golan Heights. (New Arab) US intervention in the Syrian civil war War against the Islamic State The United States launches airstrikes on ISIL targets in Syria following the collapse of the Assad regime. (The Telegraph) U.S. President Joe Biden praises the end of the Ba'athist Syria regime and announces that the U.S. will support Syria and its neighbors during Syria's political transition. (CNBC) Turkish forces bombard positions in Syrian Democratic Forces-controlled areas in Al-Hasakah. (SOHR) The Syrian opposition takes control of the city of Jableh in Latakia Governorate. (Al Jazeera) Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip At least 16 Palestinians are killed in Israeli airstrikes across the Gaza Strip, including in Deir al-Balah and the Bureij refugee camp. (Al Jazeera) Russian invasion of Ukraine Casualties of the Russo-Ukrainian War Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says that 43,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed in action since Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022 and that 370,000 soldiers have been injured, while estimating the number of Russian casualties at 198,000 soldiers killed and more than 550,000 soldiers injured. (Politico) Arts and culture Reopening of Notre-Dame de Paris The Notre-Dame cathedral in Île de la Cité, Paris, France, reopens and holds its first public mass five years after a structural fire damaged the building and destroyed its spire. French President Emmanuel Macron and dozens of world leaders attend the reopening ceremony. (Irish Independent) (RTHK) Law and crime 2024 South Korean martial law South Korean National Police arrest former national defense minister Kim Yong-hyun and raid his home, alleging that Kim helped President Yoon Suk Yeol institute martial law. (DW) (Anadolu Agency) Politics and elections 2024 Ghanaian general election Former Ghanaian President and National Democratic Congress candidate John Mahama wins the presidential election as incumbent vice president and New Patriotic Party candidate Mahamudu Bawumia concedes defeat. (DW) (BBC News) Sports 2024 Formula One World Championship In auto racing, McLaren wins the World Constructors' Championship at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, its first title since 1998. (NBC News) In professional baseball, the New York Mets sign Dominican outfielder Juan Soto to a $765 million, 15-year contract, the largest contract in Major League Baseball history. (Reuters)

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(Closed) 2024 Israeli invasion of Syria (ongoing)

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Article: 2024 Israeli invasion of Syria (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Axios

 ArionStar (talk) 22:31, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose This is very limited and does not compare to the other "ongoing" conflicts. This is day 1 and might not last much longer. It is a limited reaction to the fall of the Syrian regime. Tradedia^talk 22:47, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose for now, although replacing Syrian civil war with it could be reconsidered in the following days to weeks if this turns out to become the main theater of fighting. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. These are skirmishes around the Golan Heights, which Israel has occupied for decades. Calling it an invasion of Syria is preposterous. Khuft (talk) 23:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb, oppose ongoing – I would support incorporating this into the current Damascus blurb somehow, Israel's first incursion into Syria since 1974 is still notable, even if its one of many Israeli invasions in the past year. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 23:49, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps: "Syrian rebel forces capture Damascus and Israel invades southern Syria as overthrown president Bashar al-Assad (pictured) flees to Russia." Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 23:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

There's way too much going on now to be able to fit everything into a blurb. I think it's best to just hit the key points. Bremps... 00:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

I agree with this blurb. 2605:8D80:560:54FC:A9EE:899B:AD28:4E0F (talk) 00:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Not every special military operation is an invasion. Israel invaded Syria decades ago and still hasn't left. But there are now Israeli settlements in the occupied territory - so I'm fine with adding an ongoing about ethnic cleansing. Nfitz (talk) 00:34, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Is special military operation a sarcastic reference to Putin or not? I'm genuinely curious as I don't have that much background knowledge about who did what in Syria. Bremps... 01:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes it is. Israel hasn't even entered an area of Syrian control. They've merely put some troops into the Area of Control, that is, if anything, UN territory. Nfitz (talk) 02:48, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - no prejudice if Israel captures Damascus. This appears to be a minor operation. Nfitz (talk) 00:35, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose And we need to stop piling up things in ongoing, its far too long right now as is. --Masem (t) 01:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose minor enough that the new Syrian government doesn't seem to have reacted to it. Israel says it's limited to a defined region. Juxlos (talk) 03:21, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above, if it gets bigger we can circle back This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:15, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose A rather minor, seemingly limited part of the ongoing events in Syria . The Kip ^(contribs) 05:35, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose not the main issue in any way. And yes, the ongoing section needs a swift trim. TaBaZzz (talk) 05:49, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) Rebel forces capture Damascus

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Article: Battle of Damascus (2024) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Syrian rebel forces capture Damascus following multiple offensives by various opposition groups. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Syrian president Bashar al-Assad (pictured) flees as rebel forces capture Damascus following multiple offensives by various opposition groups.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Syrian government of Bashar al-Assad (pictured) collapses as rebel forces capture Damascus following multiple offensives by various opposition groups.
Alternative blurb III: ​ The Syrian government of Bashar al-Assad (pictured) collapses as rebel forces capture Damascus.
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Departure– (talk · give credit)
• Created by Stranger43286 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by KajMetz (talk · give credit) and Skitash (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Article is NOT ready as of this nomination, but this is a defining moment in this conflict. Departure– (talk) 02:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Support A decades old dynasty that came to an end is definitely newsworthy. Rager7 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:48, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Support Much bigger than Notre-Dame. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6c5d:5b00:23c3:c1ff:b038:b3a5:d438 (talk) 06:09, 8 December 2024

Strong support THIS is actual news. A decade of war finally over Abo Yemen✉ 05:04, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

alt blurb 2 obv Abo Yemen✉ 05:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• EXTRAORDINARLY Support End of a 50-year regime, fall of the capital city. Possibly the end of a 13-year civil war. Top of practically every news site in the entire world. THE POSSIBLE LIBERATION OF MILLIONS OF SYRIANS! This is huge news, totally, totally support this! Vamos Palmeiras (talk) 05:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Weak Support With how things are going, I think the article we should be using is "Fall of the Assad Dynasty" --MaximumMangoCloset (talk) 04:10, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Support Yeah honestly just change it to "capture" because there is almost a 100% chance that it will fall by the time it is posted Lukt64 (talk) 02:13, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Clearly notable; this is probably the biggest story of the month so far. It's already on the front page of the BBC, the New York Times, CNN, and quite a few others. Looks like it's Assad who must go, after all. Gelasin (talk) 02:20, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support, Assad is done

Personisinsterest (talk) 02:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Wait altblurb It hasn't been officially confirmed that Assad has left. But when it does, support.

Personisinsterest (talk) 03:07, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Support The rebels have apparently taken over various government buildings, and Assad has fled Damascus. I think a more suitable blurb would include “captured” or “taken over” Damascus, but this also works. They have completely won. Hungry403 (talk) 02:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Support time to migrate Syria to Ba'athist Syria. Scuba 02:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Added altblurb – Assad has reportedly left the country. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 03:00, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Support posting, preferably as soon as possible. Massive development in a long-running conflict. -insert valid name here- (talk) 03:11, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment – al-Assad is said to have fled Damascus, but not necessarily Syria. We should have the minimum information needed in a blurb like this until the fog of war clears up a bit. DecafPotato (talk) 03:18, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support, maybe a silly thought but does it count as ITN/R as a change of who is charge of the executive? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 03:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Multiple sources saying al-Assad has left and his leadership of Syria is over. Jusdafax (talk) 03:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: "Assad regime collapses as Syrian rebels enter Damascus", Axios

Personisinsterest (talk) 03:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Support but wait for confirmation that Assad has been toppled and where he has fled to. This is one of the biggest stories of the year. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:52, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment. There are unconfirmed reports that Bashar Al-Assad's plane has crashed. Sri Lanka Guardian. 104.171.53.110 (talk) 03:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Speedy Support, No brainer. Needs clarifications on what is happening among many news to summarize a good headline for the front page. --AsianHippie (talk) 03:55, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Speedy support Reuters reported the military essentially giving up, and the Prime Minister is "ready to cooperate". Juxlos (talk) 03:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Notability is obvious, and the article seems to be in solid shape considering how fast-moving the situation is. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 04:02, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• No question re supporting, but let's give it a few hours for details to stabilize. We have the ongoing entry which will help in the short term, and once we can affirm via sourcing what exactly all has happened, then we can post. Just a few hours should be enough. --Masem (t) 04:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Currently I prefer altblurb, but the situation is changing quickly. Either way, the regime has lost control of the country. Gust Justice (talk) 04:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Yes Indeed. Top news worldwide and notability is a no-brainer. The long 13 year civil war will finally conclude and Assad's regime and his Syria are completely toasted. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 04:11, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

STRONG support confirmed2A00:F3C:A282:0:4C7A:412B:134E:D001 (talk) 04:28, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support: per above and Damascus has fallen

QalasQalas (talk) 04:27, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Assad leaving doesn't necessarily [yet] confirm it has falled. At least we can say Assad is a gonner 2A00:F3C:A282:0:4C7A:412B:134E:D001 (talk) 04:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

See AP: "Syrian government appears to have fallen in stunning end to 50-year rule of Assad family". Gust Justice (talk) 04:35, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

I don't get, so what's your point? QalasQalas (talk) 04:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

The departure of the Assad family doesn't mean the government has fallen. Mubarak's family left Cairo and Sisi is stil there as same old, same old. Hear the PM. There is not new government.2A00:F3C:A282:0:4C7A:412B:134E:D001 (talk) 04:41, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not analyzing what will happen in the future.

WP:RS confirmed Reuters, AP and AFP

• Asad administration has fallen
• Damascus is under rebel control
• Syrian National TV said he jetted into a disclosed location

QalasQalas (talk) 05:03, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Support Finally! It's confirmed. The articles are in the nice phase where it's comprehensive before it inevitably devolves into a WP:INDISCRIMINATE hellscape and are postable. Bremps... 04:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

I've edited all blurbs to indicate the capture of Damascus, as current news reports. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 04:31, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Counter edit as untrue. The government collapses when there is a new governemtn and the PM is still talking about transitions. Biden's regime didn't collapse in november.2A00:F3C:A282:0:4C7A:412B:134E:D001 (talk) 04:34, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Damascus captures =/= government collapse 👍 you must've misread my edit. Here are sources: NBC News, Al Jazeera. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 04:38, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Did you hear the PM? 2A00:F3C:A282:0:4C7A:412B:134E:D001 (talk) 04:40, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

The PM discussed the peaceful transfer of power, not whether Damascus (the city) has been captured or not. Reliable sources are reporting that the city is captured. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 04:46, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support on the top of every news site. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt2 Holy shit. A 50 year dynasty, gone. Top of every news site. qw3rty 04:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Support Fall of a capital city and a dictator, major news Dyaquna (talk) 05:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support original blurb for now. Most sources are reporting the capital has fallen. More than that is not yet widely confirmed. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:06, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support, but can we not have a smug-looking photo of the former dictator on our front page? Maybe the opposition flag (File:Flag of the Syrian revolution.svg) or something. If we must have a photo of him, then I suggest (File:Al-Assad 2022 (cropped).jpeg) instead.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 05:31, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support The greatest news is the fall of the dictator. HurricaneEdgar 05:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support - one of the most groundbreaking news in this decade, the end of a long civil war Ive heard about my whole life, and the satisfying end of an evil and brutal dictatorial regime. Never have been more happier. CR-1-AB (talk) 05:51, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support - but with a different pic, maybe the one VR suggested — 🧀Cheesedealer ^!!!⚟ 05:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support with different picture per VR. Flip^andFlopped ツ 05:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Urgent Support Refugees can go home now. Grimes2 (talk) 06:10, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Can't tell if this is premature celebration of peace being achieved or a polemical anti-immigration comment, but either way, I'm afraid that right now is probably not a great time to travel to Syria  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 06:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  ??? Refugees are already returning from Lebanon. How is this different than the quick return of refugees from the camps in Thailand to Cambodia? Nfitz (talk) 06:41, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  Because this particular conflict is too complex and multi-sided to know if the fall of Assad and the end of the war are necessarily the same thing.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 07:08, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  Absolutely - but also not a great time to stay in Lebanon either. (though some new refugees are fleeing to Iraq). But it was the "polemical anti-immigration comment" bit I was responding to. Nfitz (talk) 08:33, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  I considered that to be a possibility because anti-Syrian-refugee sentiment is very common in Europe and in Turkey so "Refugees can go home now." could have been read in multiple ways.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:17, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  Indeed, and the support comment has nothing to do with the ITN nom at hand. Also the refugess in Lebanon are not returning wholly voluntarily either [6]. Gotitbro (talk) 20:28, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support but prefer that we use a picture of Assad, no strong opinions on any particular file. Without question one of the most significant things I've ever seen nominated for a blurb. Though I do have to respond to some of the comments that refer to this as the end of the civil war. As much as I'd like to be able to blurb that the civil war has ended, only time will tell whether the war will rage on even with Assad out of the picture. Historical precedent shows that dictators being deposed is often what precedes years of civil war. While it's never felt closer to being over, the rebel groups aren't exactly unified. Bear in mind that the rebel group that made the largest gains in territory this week is a splinter group that split from Al Qaeda – not exactly a group that the whole of Syria will peacefully be united under. But what we know to be certain is that the Assad era of Syria is history, and that is monumental news.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 06:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Important side note: Unconfirmed reports that Assad might be dead. This of course doesn't belong in the blurb unless and until it is confirmed, but wow.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 06:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Strong Support Huge development in both the Middle East and the world.Sic semper tyrannis Pyramids09 (talk) 07:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Strong support ToadetteEdit (talk) 07:21, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• ...Yeah, capturing Damascus—the capital of Syria and the real Eternal City (sorry, Rome)—seems like kind of a big deal to me. Support. Kurtis ^(talk) 07:31, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support this is the most influential events in modern history. This is the fall of a country's leadership dynasty of 60 years. If this isn't posted, Wikipedia is not aware of what real newses are. This indeed should be posted.MAL MALDIVE (talk) 08:14, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. --Tone 08:13, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  Why ignore all the blurbs mentioning al-Assad specifically? Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 08:19, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  It's not clear where Assad actually is, or if he's even still alive given the (unsubstantiated) plane crash rumours. Best not to mention Assad in the blurb. Nfitz (talk) 08:35, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  please post alt 2 Abo Yemen✉ 08:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Post-posting support ALT2 - a 13-year civil war, ended in a week. Incredible turn of events. The Kip ^(contribs) 09:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  Second this. Saying that the regime has collapsed is appropriate, as this is what it is being described at. The fact that Assad's fate is unclear does not prevent it from being posted, as it doesn't say that happened to Assad. Gust Justice (talk) 09:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support adding Assad. Assad being removed from power is a major part of the story as well. Any updates regarding his fate could be added once confirmed as well. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 11:22, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Strongest support possible. Add the "Assad" part, his regime has basically fallen. The civil war has come to an end. Incredible news. TwistedAxe [contact] 11:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting change to altblurb3 The big news is the fall of the regime, not just the capture of Damascus. Tradedia^talk 13:52, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Trim "by opposition groups". To those not in the know, it could suggest groups opposed to the rebels. For those who do know, it's just redundant to same. InedibleHulk (talk) 14:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Bashar al-Assad has resigned, which is ITN/R so should be mentioned in the blurb. Davey2116 (talk) 15:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• ’’’Post-Posting Support’’’ today is a day of freedom for many — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ion.want.uu (talk • contribs) 15:28, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Adjusted blurb and switched image to Assad's infobox image. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 16:00, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Comment / Post posting support Wow. An ITN blurb being posted in....14 hours? Is that a record? I mean, it's deserved, but still...impressive. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 18:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  14 hours might seem quick but if I recall correctly the death of Elizabeth II in 2022 was posted in under 10 minutes. I was shocked nobody made the nomination before me because I nominated it more than 25 minutes after the news first broke. Departure– (talk) 22:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  Not a record - but if we are going to take credit, I'd suggest a blurb about an hour before you opened this, in the Ongoing discussion. Nfitz (talk) 00:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

  But I made the template nomination first, gosh darn it! It would have been nominated and I have no incentive to take credit beyond adding it to my user page. Departure– (talk) 00:49, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

• Post-posting support Huge news, the Syrian Civil War is now basically over, and this is undoubtedly a major point of major history, definitely Editor 5426387 (talk) 01:19, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

  The Middle East needs peace. Muslims, Christians, Jews, non-religious… everyone in a common harmony. ArionStar (talk) 02:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

  Let's not turn this closed discussion into a general discussion of the conflict. Departure– (talk) 02:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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December 7

Portal:Current events/2024 December 7

December 7, 2024 (2024-12-07) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war 2024 Syrian opposition offensives Operation Dawn of Freedom 2024 Manbij offensive Turkish-backed Syrian National Army forces conduct extensive drone strikes and artillery shelling on villages near U.S.-backed Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces positions in the city of Manbij in Aleppo Governorate, Syria. (Motabaat) (Asharq Al-Awsat) Fall of Damascus The Military Operations Command coalition led by Tahrir al-Sham says that a military operation to capture Damascus is underway with rebels reportedly advancing on the capital on several fronts. (The Jerusalem Post) Rebel forces capture the cities of Al-Dumayr and Yabroud and the town of Sa'sa' in Rif Dimashq Governorate as the Syrian Defense Ministry denies reports that its troops are abandoning positions in the Damascus countryside. (Al Arabiya) (SOHR) Syrian security officials and Arab officials say that First Lady of Syria Asma al-Assad fled with her three children to Russia last week. However, amid conflicting reports, Syrian state television says that President Bashar al-Assad remains in Damascus. (The Telegraph via Yahoo! News) (BBC News) United Nations Special Envoy for Syria Geir Otto Pedersen calls for an "orderly political transition" from the collapsing Syrian government to the Syrian opposition in order to end the conflict. (AP) (Barron's) A statue of former Syrian president Hafez al-Assad is toppled in the Damascus suburb of Jaramana. (NBC News) (Barron's) Southern Syria offensive The Syrian Armed Forces announce a complete withdrawal from the Daraa and Suwayda Governorates in order to reinforce Damascus. (AP) Rebel forces capture the city of Al-Sanamayn in Daraa Governorate and also capture the city of Quneitra. (First Post) (The Hindustan Times) (Al Arabiya) 2024 Homs offensive Rebel forces enter the city of Homs, eventually capturing the city after hours of urban warfare to oust Assad loyalists. Rebels also capture Homs Central Prison and release around 3,500 prisoners. (Reuters) (Times Now) (Cedar News) (Barron's) Deir ez-Zor offensive More than 1,000 Syrian soldiers seeking refuge cross into Iraq through the Al-Qa'im border crossing according to Iraqi authorities. (Iraqi News Agency) Palmyra offensive The U.S.-backed Revolutionary Commando Army takes control of the city of Palmyra in Homs Governorate following heavy fighting with pro-government forces. Rebels also capture the towns of Al-Sukhnah and Al-Qaryatayn in Homs Governorate. (Yeni Safak) The Syrian Army withdraws from the cities of Al-Hasakah and Qamishli in Al-Hasakah Governorate, transferring control of the Kurdish-majority cities to the Syrian Democratic Forces. (Anadolu Agency) (Yeni Safak) Iranian intervention in the Syrian civil war Iran begins to evacuate military personnel, diplomatic staff, and civilians from Syria amid rebel advances. (The New York Times) Refugees of the Syrian civil war The UN World Food Programme reports that the renewed conflict in Syria is estimated to displace around 1.5 million Syrians. (Al Jazeera) Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Refugee camp airstrikes in the Israel–Hamas war At least 20 people, including six children, are killed in Israeli airstrikes on the Nuseirat refugee camp in Deir al-Balah Governorate, Gaza. (Al Jazeera) Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani says at the Doha Forum that his country is seeing a momentum build up for a ceasefire to end the conflict between Israel and Hamas in the Gaza Strip. (Al Jazeera) Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Six Pakistan Army soldiers and 22 Tehreek-e-Taliban militants are killed in clashes near the Afghan border. (Reuters) Six soldiers are killed and seven are injured after a mass shooting at a military checkpoint in Kurram District, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. (AP) Disasters and accidents 2024–25 European windstorm season Storm Darragh Two people are killed by falling trees in England and more than 1.5 million people experience power outages in Ireland and the United Kingdom as Storm Darragh hits the British Isles. (BBC News) (Sky News) 2024 The Hague explosion Five people are killed, four others are injured, and several others are missing in an explosion that destroyed several apartments in The Hague, Netherlands. (BBC News) (Euronews) Law and crime Cross-strait relations, Chinese intelligence activity abroad Prosecutors in Taiwan charge four soldiers with espionage, accusing the soldiers of passing photographs of Taiwan's military capability to Chinese agents in exchange for money between 2022 and 2024. (DW) (The Standard) Politics and elections 2024 South Korean martial law Attempted impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol A vote to impeach South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol fails in the National Assembly due to a boycott of the vote by members of Yoon's People Power Party. (AP) President Yoon Suk Yeol apologizes to the South Korean population, promising that he will not avoid legal sanctions or institute martial law a second time. (The Guardian) 2024 Indian farmers' protest Over 100 Indian farmers march from Punjab to the capital city New Delhi to demand for the legal assurance of a minimum support price for all crops as well as loan forgiveness for farmers. (DW) Punjab Police set up barricades and fire tear gas at the marching farmers as they enter Haryana, causing them to turn around and return to Shambhu, Punjab. (Hindustan Times) (Anadolu Agency) 2024 Ghanaian general election Ghanaians vote to elect the President and the 275 members of the Parliament. (France24) 2025 Singaporean general election Former Workers' Party Secretary-General and longest-serving opposition Member of the Parliament of Singapore Low Thia Khiang announced retirement in politics ahead of the election. (The Straits Times) (CNA) Interim President and military junta leader of Burkina Faso Ibrahim Traoré dismisses Prime Minister Apollinaire J. Kyélem de Tambèla and dissolves the government. (DW) (Irish Examiner) Science and technology The Iranian Space Agency successfully launches the Simorgh rocket carrying two satellites and the Saman-1 space tug from the Imam Khomeini Space Launch Terminal in Semnan, Iran, the heaviest payload ever launched in Iran. (DW) Sports MLS Cup 2024 In association football, the Los Angeles Galaxy defeat the New York Red Bulls 2–1 to win a record 6th championship. (AP)

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RD: Darrell McGraw

Article: Darrell McGraw (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): US News
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former West Virginia Attorney General. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. The "early life and education" section is unsourced, and so is the first paragraph of the "political career" section. Gelasin (talk) 01:46, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose needs source work. Scuba 18:57, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing removal: Russian invasion of Ukraine

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Article: Russian invasion of Ukraine (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)

Nominator's comments: The frontlines have been mostly static for two years since Kherson was retaken, besides small Russian pushes and Ukrainian counteroffensives. Compared to the other wars currently in Ongoing, the invasion of Ukraine isn't at the same level of high-intensity conflict anymore. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:45, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Weak oppose There's still plenty of developments in the war and surrounding geopolitical conflict, even those that don't involve the frontlines. There's more to war than territory, and this war, despite little land changing hands in the past year or so, has proven that. Departure– (talk) 21:49, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Strong Oppose as per this reasoning. The war is still very active and is the deadliest war of 2024 as per List of ongoing armed conflicts. Pluma (talk) 23:40, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support per nom. I can't remember the last time I read any new news about the war. It's getting closer and closer to becoming a frozen conflict every day. Gelasin (talk) 22:39, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

  A frozen conflict is one where active armed conflict has mostly ceased, which does not describe the Russo-Ukranian war, where the conflict is presently at its most deadly in years, despite little movement in the front lines [7]. Pluma (talk) 23:37, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

  Of course it's not currently a frozen conflict, but it's certainly heading in that direction. Most of the major territorial changes happened not long after the Russian invasion started almost three years ago. Gelasin (talk) 00:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  If you aren't seeing frequent coverage, I think you should be changing your newspapers subscription. Today there's most of a page here covering the Russian opposition that certainly involves the war. Yesterday the opposition had front-page coverage going onto to a 2-page spread. The day before there was a piece about trying to overcome the war damage with investment. With the recent increasing Russian advances and reports about their ever-increasing death toll, the nuclear sabre rattling over the deployment of longer range UK and US missiles there's been more coverage recently, as far as I've seen. Nfitz (talk) 00:45, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose It's in the news every day, contrary to e.g. the Sudanese war. Khuft (talk) 22:59, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Strong oppose for now because of the ascendancy of the Trump administration in January, and the subsequent negotiations he has promised to bring about to "end the war" within days or weeks. The reality is, there will be renewed press coverage and increased clarity on the future of the war within the next two months. Trump's stated strategy will either cause a truce/stagnation along current boundaries (time for removal at that point), or a major escalation (in such case we will just have to re-add it). Removing from ongoing right on the precipice of that significant geopolitical "benchmark" in the conflict, just seems silly. We could instead wait to pull the trigger on removal just a little bit longer, at a more logical time when the future of the war becomes clearer in January. Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:03, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose there is no credible argument that this is less static than the Sudanese civil war. The fact that most of the world's nuclear powers are invested in the situation in Ukraine, and that none of them are similarly invested in Sudan, does matter. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:05, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

  The credible argument is that Singa, Sudan, a city the size of Kherson, was retaken two weeks ago, while no such movement happened in Ukraine for two years now. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:26, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

  Did we miss that Ukraine launched a ground incursion into Russia just a few months ago? The Kip ^(contribs) 23:52, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (1 August 2024 – present) reports actions for every day. Grimes2 (talk) 23:05, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

*Support There have been no significant territorial changes for almost two years. The fact that it’s in the news everyday isn’t a strong argument to keep it. For instance, the COVID-19 pandemic was removed when it was top news on a daily basis just because people got used that there’s a pandemic in the world. In the same way, people are aware that there’s a war in Ukraine, so there’s no need to keep it in ongoing forever.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:09, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• • COVID was removed on 31 August 2022, with most of the !votes saying it was not "top news" any longer. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:20, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
    • Subjective personal opinions have no value when we have facts (see Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in August 2022).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

      Consensus on ongoing topics is not "subjective personal opinions", its based on how frequently the article(s) are being updated with significant new developments. That's still happening in the Ukraine-Russia war, not so much in the Sudan civil war. Masem (t) 00:33, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

      @Masem: Why is the Sudan civil war relevant here? ITN nominations are completely independent.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 00:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

      This suggestion appears to originate due to the current support for the Sudan war removal (why suggest it now), and it is also useful to demonstrate the type of article coverage and improvements that we expect for Ongoing topics against what is not sufficient. — Masem (t) 01:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

      Fair enough. I’ve stricken my vote here in order to vote against the removal of that item. If daily updates are what’s needed, that one doesn’t seem to fail the test either. The problem is that people don’t care about Sudan as much as about Ukraine (latent racism).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 01:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 23:52, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose one cannot make a credible argument that it is not an ongoing news event when the BBC and other major sources have an entire vertical on it This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:57, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Compared to Sudan, the situation in Ukraine is still being significantly covered. If we removed this now and there's been significant movement on the next day, it will no doubt be nominated again. Moreover, now that Assad's Syria, which Russia supports is expected to collapse within a few days or so, its a question if Russia will now step up its attack. If the war drags on and continues to be stale once the upcoming Trump administration takes office in January, I will consider support removing it. For now, I strongly support keeping it. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 00:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per above. There are still frequent updates, even if territory isn't changing much. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 00:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - WTAF? Nfitz (talk) 00:35, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. IDB.S (talk) 02:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose. Still receiving regular news coverage. -insert valid name here- (talk) 02:55, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

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Ghana general election

Article: 2024 Ghanaian general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ John Mahama (pictured) is re-elected as President of Ghana (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The National Democratic Congress (Ghana), led by John Mahama, wins the Presidential and Parlimentary majority in the 2024 Ghanaian general election
News source(s): Aljazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Heatrave (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Ongoing Ghanaian general elections for presidential and parliamentary candidates. Heatrave (talk) 12:28, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose good-faith nom. It is more typical to post elections to ITN once the results are in. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 12:53, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Wait We post election results, not the onset of the election period. I assume that means within 12hr we'll have them and then everything can be updated. --Masem (t) 12:56, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose until the election results are in and a winner is announced. Scuba 16:19, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Hold till we have projection/results This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose until the results come in. Gelasin (talk) 01:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep Results now confirmed, incumbent Vice President has conceded defeat.Heatrave (talk) 15:25, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support John Mahama wins election. Grimes2 (talk) 16:52, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Article structure looks good and it seems ready for posting. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 06:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• There are three headings labelled results. The last of those (a level-2 heading) should have more prose about the overall outcome of the election before I would consider this ready for posting. Schwede66 06:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Official results declared by the Electoral Commission of Ghana announce John Mahama as winner of the elections. Heatrave (talk) 16:36, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Conditional support - The article is mostly ready (and has more prose than it used to), but it could use a little clarification on several presidential candidates' VP candidates. If they had no VP picks, that information can be given if there are any sources confirming it. Once we clean up those tags, it should be good to go.

~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 16:56, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

2024 Kwango province disease outbreak

Article: 2024 Kwango province disease outbreak (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 79 people have died from an outbreak of an unknown disease in Kwango, Democratic Republic of the Congo (Post)
News source(s): ABC News, USA Today, VOA
Credits:

• Nominated by Staraction (talk · give credit)
• Created by Noble Attempt (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: First death was reported 10 November 2024 but only recently has this started gaining media attention. 79 is the count from the Africa CDC, but local health authorities have reported 143 (as reported in ABC News). Article may need updating as this situation develops. Staraction (talk | contribs) 06:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Wait The area is remote and the WHO is still investigating. Per WP:MEDRS, we should wait for some test results. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Wait for more information. If the disease is later known, it would be worth posting as such. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 12:50, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Wait per above, posting with more information availed later would be better than keeping readers in suspense, especially given than it may get forgotten later for some reason. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 16:03, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Wait There's not enough information. There are no test results yet which means it could end up being a known illness (or even a mix of different illnesses), in which case it's unlikely to be ITN worthy. Johndavies837 (talk) 18:49, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Wait per all above. Gelasin (talk) 01:41, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Support Could be a while before anyone knows what it is. Bremps... 04:33, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose situation unlikely to develop further. Some of the sources in the article are also dubious (Newsweek is cited for some reason) Scuba 18:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Ongoing removal: Sudanese civil war

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Article: Sudanese civil war (2023–present) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)

Nominator's comments: The war has slowed down significantly, the article is updated less and less frequently, and Ongoing is becoming bloated. Gelasin (talk) 04:38, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Support due to bloat, decrease in edit counts. Scuba 05:52, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support It is time. It is only getting significant content updates about once a week. Tradedia^talk 06:18, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Support besides with the current limits Syria could use priority currently, but in the future we can change it if more news comes in Ion.want.uu (talk) 07:57, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose, the war has not slowed down, with the major city of Singa, Sudan (259,000 inhabitants, as much as Kherson) having been recaptured only two weeks ago. The article points out that [a]ccording to a report by the French newspaper Le Monde, as of November 2024 the war in Sudan has possibly entered its most dangerous phase since it began in April 2023. Both the SAF and RSF have officially ruled out settling the civil war through negotiations, with the only option on the table being total war. War crimes are also still ongoing, like the 2024 eastern Gezira State massacres. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 10:28, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Just because events may continue to be ongoing doesn't make the topic necessarily suitable for ongoing. Ongoing line is for topics that generally get near-daily news coverage, and in the case of the Sudan war, its updates are in spurts, roughly weekly. — Masem (t) 12:46, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• oppose per Chaotic Enby Abo Yemen✉ 12:47, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Ongoing is getting long, and this article isn't updated as frequently as the others. We can add it back if something changes to warrant that. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Chaotic Enby. It is still ongoing and if anything, has intensified since we first put it on. There are still daily updates on the timeline page which include major losses of civilian life. I also do not agree on precedent with removing a conflict from ongoing, even when the loss of life and devastation remains high or growing, just to free up space - too arbitrary of a reason, IMHO. Flip^andFlopped ツ 15:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support—Not because the situation is calming down per se, but because the world is no longer paying as much attention as it once did. We don't have the civil war in Myanmar in Ongoing, and as far as I'm aware, it's no less deadly. Kurtis ^(talk) 16:15, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

  And this is how systemic bias creeps in. The Russia-Ukraine war is much more static (no city comparable to Singa has been retaken since the frontlines stabilized two years ago), and yet, as it is more of a topic of interest to (mostly Western) editors, the war in Sudan is the one that is being considered for removal instead. "The world has moved on" is a very Western-centric way of putting it. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:05, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support; the world has moved on from Sudan as evident by the edit history slowing down. No longer worthy of ongoing. Kline • talk • contribs 16:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

  the world has moved on
  That sounded horrible, like really horrible Abo Yemen✉ 18:11, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

  I am not here to sugarcoat what the truth is. Obviously they are not on their own and should never be, but the news outlets are no longer interested in covering Sudan anymore, more important stories have developed. Kline • talk • contribs 20:28, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

*Support. Per most of the above. While the war still may be ongoing, there just isn't much coverage as it used to anymore. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 22:06, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Changing to Oppose. Maybe I was exaggerating at first. Despite partially feeling WP:CPP, the others have a clear point. Whether it is no longer being covered or the war has calmed down or not, the conflict isn't essentially over. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 04:22, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 23:53, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose mostly because there’s latent racism on the entire page (Sudan isn’t Ukraine and blah blah blah.) Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a news oulet, so it’s irrelevant however news oulets report about a story as long as they report about it. I see daily news reports on this war in the media (we don’t require the BBC to do it so frequently).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 01:17, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose the only reason that its not being covered as much is because western media just wont cover african countries. this deserves to be known about. Lukt64 (talk) 02:15, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Timeline of the Sudanese civil war (2024) gets regular updates, the assertion in the opening nom "war has slowed down significantly" is also demonstrably false. And I don't think the Ongoing panel is bloated, considering what we have at Portal:Current events only a minor fraction is highlighted here which barely takes a few pixels. Gotitbro (talk) 08:12, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

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(Pulled) Northwestern Syria offensive

Article: Northwestern Syria offensive (2024) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Kianlolcat99 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I think it's appropriate at this point to nominate the Northwestern Syria offensive article for the ongoing events for ITN. There's been significant developments, the article is being updated pretty regularly, and RS are consistently covering it. The capture of Aleppo is also still displayed on ITN. Previous discussion (from December 1st) rejected putting Syrian Civil War back on ongoing and said to nominate the article for Northwestern Syria offensive instead. Can I has Cheezburger? (talk) 02:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Strong support per nom Abo Yemen✉ 12:46, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support when the current blurb rolls off. This conflict is probably the most important one in the world right now, and it will determine the future of the Assad government. The article is seeing continuous updates; this qualifies for ITN. Gelasin (talk) 03:36, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Support this is what is getting updated, not the article for the entire civil war itself. Scuba 03:48, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Five ongoings is going to push that to three lines and we may have problems with front-page balance in the future. We should probably consider if the Sudanese civil war is really needed at this point, given that its only getting significant content updates about once a week. --Masem (t) 04:11, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

I'd be fine removing Sudan. Scuba 04:17, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

I've nominated it for removal. Gelasin (talk) 04:33, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

I've voted in favor of removal. Scuba 05:53, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support when the current blurb rolls off. The article is being updated very regularly, and RS are consistently covering it. Tradedia^talk 07:16, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

stole my nomination :( Support though Ion.want.uu (talk) 07:53, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Comment make sure the ongoing says 2024 Syrian Opposition offensive Ion.want.uu (talk) 07:56, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Support, although the simultaneous 2024 Deir ez-Zor offensive (from the SDF, which is now fighting both the regime and the Syrian opposition) makes me wonder if Syrian civil war might be the better target (maybe with Timeline of the Syrian civil war (November 2024–present)). Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 10:20, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Focusing on the HTS offensive on its own is already out-of-date, since the article was renamed and the Southern Syria offensive (2024) and the Palmyra offensive (2024) look like they're already converging towards Damascus - the Fall of Damascus could happen within hours, at most a few days. There's currently an RM to change from 2024 Syrian opposition offensive (singular) to 2024 Syrian opposition offensives (plural) - my prediction is that this will be snow closed by the time that this ITN proposal converges, but my predictions are often wrong. 2024 Syrian opposition offensive itself has not (yet?) been properly rewritten as an overview article - it still mostly focuses on the northwestern offensive. Boud (talk) 13:35, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

  Battle of Damascus (2024) should be considered for this too. Boud (talk) 16:08, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Support Things are developing really quickly right now, so it's an article many readers would be interested in. It also is seeing intense coverage by many sources. Gust Justice (talk) 14:21, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Support Covered significantly in RS, and the situation is developing rapidly. Support ongoing. Schwinnspeed (talk) 15:18, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Support Massive changes going on and we might see a final conclusion to the 13-year civil war. I would say merge the Israel–Hamas war and the 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon into either one hook or remove the Lebanese one (ceasefire, in theory) instead of removing the Sudanese one - odd to have three Middle Eastern wars right smack dab next to each other all on ITN. Juxlos (talk) 15:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Support, although maybe under Syrian Civil War, since the article is still focused mostly on the Northwest Offensive while it seems like there's an effort to transition it to being more about the reignition of the civil war at large. Pluma (talk) 20:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Getting widespread news attention. It seems that Damascus is about to collapse as well and we will finally see an end to this 13 year war. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 22:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Support per Juxlos. If we have to clear up space to make this happen, I agree with merging the two Israel-related articles as opposed to removing Ukraine or Sudan. Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:08, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support putting any Syrian civil war related article in ongoing. The situation is rapidly evolving. It's very possible that we'll be posting a blurb instead soon, as it's looking increasingly likely that the Syrian Arab Republic could cease to exist soon and Assad's reign will be over. But whether or not that happens in the near future, fast-moving situations like this are a great use of Ongoing.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 23:23, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support 2024 Syrian opposition offensives - scope of the ongoing fighting has gone beyond just the northwest. The Kip ^(contribs) 23:54, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support - though with the quickly changing situation, there'll likely be need to adjust the text/target now that there are reports that Damascus has fallen. Nfitz (talk) 00:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

On the other hand, with report that Damascus has fallen, the Syrian army demobilizing, Assad fled, and the Russians evacuating their naval base - maybe this should be a blurb, once the media catches up to the overnight activities and the extent dawns on them. Nfitz (talk) 01:08, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 01:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Looks like it was pulled, presumably because events overtook it with the fall of Damascus. Shortest Ongoing ever! Presumably an ongoing will return once it falls off the tracker. Nfitz (talk) 08:39, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, this is the idea, it makes little sense to have an item both in ongoing and as a main blurb. Tone 08:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

December 6

Portal:Current events/2024 December 6

December 6, 2024 (2024-12-06) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war 2024 Syrian opposition offensives 2024 Homs offensive After capturing the town of Talbiseh and the city of Al-Rastan, rebel forces capture several more towns and villages in the northern countryside of Homs Governorate, Syria, reaching the town of Al-Dar al-Kabirah and approaching the outskirts of Homs. (SOHR) (Anadolu Agency) Russian and Syrian warplanes bombard rebel-held areas in Homs Governorate, killing at least 20 people. (BBC News) Southern Syria offensive Syrian Army soldiers from the 8th Armoured Division in Daraa defect to the Syrian opposition as rebels launch attacks on pro-government checkpoints across Daraa Governorate, taking control of several towns, including Inkhil, Ghabaghib, and al-Jiza, as well as the city of Jasim. Rebels later claim near total control of the governorate. (Yeni Safak) Rebels take full control of the city of Daraa after agreeing to allow Ba'ath Party officials to leave the city with safe passage to Damascus, and also take full control of the mainly Druze city of Suwayda. (The Times of Israel) (The New Arab) (Anadolu Agency) (Newsweek) Jordan closes its border with Syria after rebel forces seize the main Nasib Border Crossing. (Reuters) Deir ez-Zor offensive The Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces take control of Deir ez-Zor and its airport following the withdrawal of pro-government forces. (Enab Baladi) (SOHR) Iraqi militias withdraw from the Syrian side of the Al-Qa'im border crossing on the border with Iraq. (Shafaq) Russia–Syria relations Russia tells its citizens to leave Syria on commercial flights while they still can amid rebel advances in the country. (Al Arabiya) Turkish involvement in the Syrian civil war Turkey freezes the assets of deceased former commander of Tahrir al-Sham Abu Maria al-Qahtani, who was killed in April, to comply with the United Nations Security Council's policies. (Turkish Minute) Tahrir al-Sham leader Abu Mohammad al-Julani says that his forces will not end their military campaign until Syrian president Bashar al-Assad is removed from power. (France 24) Egypt and Jordan both urge Bashar al-Assad and his family to leave Syria, saying that Assad can no longer stop the rebel offensive. (The Wall Street Journal) The Indian Ministry of External Affairs advises its citizens to leave Syria and avoid all travel to the country indefinitely. (WION) Israel–Hamas war Kamal Adwan Hospital sieges Israeli drone strikes on the northern and western sides of the Kamal Adwan Hospital in Beit Lahia in the Gaza Strip kill at least 29 Palestinians. Israeli forces subsequently raid the hospital, killing four doctors. (Al Jazeera) (CNN) Russian invasion of Ukraine Southern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine A Russian missile strike kills ten civilians in Zaporizhzhia, Ukraine, and injures four others, including two children. Separately, a missile attack on an administrative building in Kryvyi Rih, Ukraine, kills two people and injures 16 others. (Reuters) Business and economy EU–Mercosur Association Agreement The European Union and Mercosur trade bloc finalize a free trade deal in Montevideo, Uruguay, after 25 years of negotiations. (France 24) Disasters and accidents 2024–25 European windstorm season Millions of people receive emergency alerts in the United Kingdom as Storm Darragh prepares to make landfall over the British Isles. (BBC News) Twenty-six people are killed and 28 more injured after a collision between two minibuses in Brokoua, Ivory Coast. (AP) New Zealand Police presume that two Americans and a Canadian are dead after evidence suggests they fell while attempting to summit Mount Cook (Aoraki), suspending search operations. (CNN) International relations Belarus–Russia relations, Nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian President Vladimir Putin and Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko sign an agreement in Minsk, Belarus, offering security guarantees to Belarus including nuclear security and the possible use of Russian nuclear weapons in order to repel aggressions. (AP) Law and crime Antisemitism in Australia Two people are injured in an arson attack on a synagogue in Melbourne, Australia. (DW) (The Australian Jewish News) Restrictions on TikTok in the United States A United States court of appeals upholds the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, which requires China-based company ByteDance to sell TikTok by January 19 or face an effective ban on operations in the United States. (CNBC) Politics and elections 2024 Aruban general election Arubans vote to elect the 21 members of the Parliament. The Aruban People's Party wins nine seats and the People's Electoral Movement wins eight seats, neither parties achieving a majority. (Aruba Papers) 2024 Mauritian presidential election An uncontested election is held for the President of Mauritius, with former minister of education and Labour Party representative Dharam Gokhool winning without contest. Robert Hungley is elected Vice-President. (Xinhua) 2024 Romanian presidential election The Constitutional Court of Romania annuls the first round results of the presidential election vote two days before the second round of the election. (The Washington Post)

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(Posted) RD: Eddie Stobart

Article: Eddie Stobart (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Telegraph
Credits:

• Nominated by Ollieisanerd (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: British businessman. Death announced on this date. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 16:35, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. The article structure is way to short. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 11:32, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  286 words. Grimes2 (talk) 11:53, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  It's classed as Start. What are the rules for ITN? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  > 300 words. Grimes2 (talk) 12:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  30 words now added. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:13, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Thanks, Satis. Grimes2 (talk) 12:33, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Iconic name in UK commercial transport. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Dickie Rock

Article: Dickie Rock (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Irish Times
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:31E4:1BA6:D6A9:2C91 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Alison (talk · give credit) and Joseywales1961 (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Irish singer and member of The Miami Showband. 240F:7A:6253:1:31E4:1BA6:D6A9:2C91 (talk) 15:28, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Short but adequate article - I've added missing sources for discography and a statement in the body text Josey Wales ^Parley 18:28, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Soft support wish he had a Discography source, but other than that it is okay. Scuba 18:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support. Short but it looks good enough to me. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 06:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Apart from an unreferenced DoB, this looks ready. Schwede66 03:56, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

   Done Grimes2 (talk) 11:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 17:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Reopening of Notre Dame

Article: Reopening of Notre-Dame de Paris (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Notre-Dame cathedral (pictured) reopens following reconstruction after the 2019 fire. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Notre-Dame de Paris cathedral (pictured in 2024) reopens following reconstruction in the wake of the 2019 fire.
News source(s): AP, CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Cantab12 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Trying again, as the cathedral is now opening tomorrow. The previous nom was closed due to the cathedral not being open yet. Natg 19 (talk) 18:09, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - target article should be Reopening of Notre-Dame de Paris 2024 (which I'd support on quality), and the cathedral hasn't reopened yet (it's still 6 December in France). Departure– (talk) 18:37, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt fixed the target article. Scuba 18:45, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
• Unsure about the target article being the reopening ceremony. That article is rather stubby at the moment. Natg 19 (talk) 18:59, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support alternate blurb. A unique event that's for sure. We are close enough to the opening. Nfitz (talk) 19:54, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb per above. Quality is solid. The Kip ^(contribs) 20:36, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support either blurb, but can we change them slightly? 'The Notre-Dame cathedral' is not idiomatic in British English. 'Notre-Dame de Paris', 'Notre-Dame Cathedral', or 'The Cathedral of Notre-Dame (de Paris)' would be better. GenevieveDEon (talk) 21:33, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

• Idiomatically it's just Notre-Dame, no cathedral or Paris. I would go with "Notre-Dame reopens following reconstruction in the wake of the 2019 fire." GreatCaesarsGhost 01:28, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Support this altblurb once it opens: it should wait until the event has happened already and there is a picture of the reopening to attach instead of showing a picture from April. Pluma (talk) 20:56, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose It's not ITNR and there's no indication of significance for just another building opening up in the 21st century. If we ITN the opening of every well-known building we might as well be a construction newsletter –Jiaminglimjm (talk) 23:40, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

I think this is a bit of a slippery slope fallacy. There is a feasible way to demarcate between major, widely covered closures of worldwide landmarks vs mundane construction updates to every named skyscraper with a wikipedia article... the degree of news coverage. Support. Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:54, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

I'd be fine with this being a construction newsletter. Scuba 03:48, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Important church for France, 50 world leaders are expected, worldwide coverage. This makes it a unique event. Grimes2 (talk) 00:28, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support alt2. It's the reopening of one of the greatest monuments of Western civilization. I've added an altblurb that I think flows better. Gelasin (talk) 03:21, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm going to say it again: Any blurb starting "The Notre" sounds weird, for the same reason it would if it was all in English and started "The Our". GenevieveDEon (talk) 10:08, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support but I do not like the fact there's a separate article for the ceremony of reopening, it would make far more sense for a summary coverage of it to be in the fire article as the code to the overall event. We need to stop creating articles on every trivial event with excessive details, and think about comprehensive articles first and foremost. --Masem (t) 04:09, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support only because the event is notable and garners wide media attention. However, the personal opinions about how great and historically notable Notre-Dame is are irrelevant and redundant (this would have not been in the news this much had it been not notable).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:42, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb per Grimes2 Schwinnspeed (talk) 15:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Clearly notable and well-covered event, and nicely encyclopedic, but as a side I also agree very much with Masem above about the lack of necessity for separate articles about events like these. Yakikaki (talk) 19:11, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb per Grimes2, and suggest posting now as a clear consensus is evident. Jusdafax (talk) 19:29, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• @Admins willing to post ITN: Natg 19 (talk) 20:49, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Notre-Dame de Paris, across the Seine, before reopening

• Posted Stephen 22:06, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
  • The bolded target article should be either the reopening or Notre Dame itself. The fire article was already featured in the ITN before and now may be confusing. Brandmeister^talk 22:49, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• I agree that the fire should not be bolded. I just looked at the reopening article, and it is not much more than a stub. I fixed a sentence about the music program, but it has no reference. I came to add a recent image (that I took on 4 Dec) but found no place for it. I believe that it is less pretty than the one featured, but perhaps more informative, showing the rebuilt spire, cranes more clearly, and tents for the celebrations. It could be cropped, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• I also agree that the fire shouldn’t be bolded (it was when it actually happened more than five years ago).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 23:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Romanian presidential election 1st round annulled

Article: 2024–25 Romanian presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The first round of the Romanian presidential election has been annulled by the Romanian Constitutional Court due to Russian electoral interference. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The first round of the Romanian presidential election is annulled by the Romanian Constitutional Court.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The first round of the Romanian presidential election is annulled by the Romanian Constitutional Court following allegations of Russian electoral interference.
News source(s): Euronews, Reuters, AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Flipandflopped (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: This is unprecedented. Have not marked it as ITN/R but does concern an election. Article needs updating Abcmaxx (talk) 14:23, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support (pending blurb update) – clearly significant (an EU country has just annulled an election result!) and long enough – but you seem to have linked to the parliamentary election rather than the presidential! DimensionalFusion (talk · she/her) 14:31, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

  Oops apologies! Fixed now though. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support on significance given the political crisis and especially the issue of election interference. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:33, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Article does not include the information the blurb is claiming (re: Russian interference). There should be continuity here before this is posted. --Masem (t) 14:47, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

  Indeed, addressed. SerialNumber54129 15:26, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose as there was no clear winner after the first round. It'd have been more significant had this decision annulled the final results from the presidential election in a similar way as the Supreme Court of Ukraine did during the 2004 Ukrainian presidential election.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:12, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

  There two clear winners in any 1st round given only two get to advance to the second round. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:25, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

  There may be a clear winner if a candidate wins 50%+1 of the registered voters in the first round. In this case, two candidates advanced to a run-off in the second round because no-one achieved victory in the first round. There cannot be two winners when one president is elected.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:35, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support on significance and probably article quality. Its ITN notability stems from the annulling of the election, not the specific result it overturned. SerialNumber54129 15:16, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability It would admittedly be a little unusual to blurb the first round of a multi-round election, but an annulment of an EU member state's election over Russian interference is even more unusual. I think both this and the ultimate result (whenever it comes) can reasonably be posted. Flip^andFlopped ツ 16:09, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
• Wait, Good faith nom, but I think it's a bit early to nominate given how it only been a few hours since it was announced. The article section needs more time to improve first. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 16:16, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support hasn't happened before, big news. Scuba 16:45, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support An act without any precedent that I can think of in modern European politics. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:55, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

  That depends on how narrowly you define it. See e.g. 2016 Austrian presidential election. Daß Wölf 17:31, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose current blurb. Heads I win, tails you lose. I don't believe the Constitutional Court's claim that it annulled the election due to alleged "Russian interference," and as such, I cannot support any blurb which presents this as fact. However, I do believe this is notable and I would support a blurb that simply states something like "The first round of the Romanian presidential election is annulled by the Romanian Constitutional Court." Gelasin (talk) 19:24, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support per above - ready? The AP (talk) 19:36, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support for the various reasons mentioned above; it's an unprecedented affair in recent history with global political ramifications. Joe (talk) 10:30, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment I disagree with Gelasin and oppose altblurb 1. IMHO, the interference is what makes blurbing this now appropriate. If it were being annulled for some other domestic issue, I would say just wait and post the ITNR results with a little note about the delay in the blurb. I believe the consensus already formed that the alleged Russian interference is what is notable, and that this should be in the blurb. I've proposed a compromise altblurb 2 which weakens the language to "allegations", as opposed to stating the interference as a matter of fact. Flip^andFlopped ツ 15:50, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb 2 per Flipandflopped. Aydoh8^[contribs] 23:40, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Not ready, has anyone addressed the tags on the article? Stephen 01:19, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. The article has orange tags and some of it are unsourced. Moraljaya67 (talk) 03:08, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose per above Giant orange banners and main page do not mix Bremps... 04:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  • Support Doesn't seem to be any orange tags or citation needed flags, good job User:Flipandflopped Bremps... 23:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality per Bremps. charlotte ^👸♥ 05:31, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  Support charlotte ^👸♥ 21:54, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Stephen, Moraljaya67, Bremps, Queen of Hearts, I addressed all the individual tags I could find and also removed an unnecessary section - the campaign section was duplicative of the "debates" and "leading campaign issues" sections which followed, so there was not anything to say. There was a generic "unreliable sources" banner at the top, but no individual tags to that effect. There are some cites to Facebook, but they are appropriate in context because they link to candidate statements and endorsements. Let me know if that's enough to shift your vote. Flip^andFlopped ツ 16:09, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support This is significant enough given the fight between West and East in East Europe. Also, the quality problems seem to have been fixed. Tradedia^talk 21:19, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted ALT2. All issues raised above seem to have been addressed. Schwede66 23:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Kelly Powers

Article: Kelly Powers (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced. Death published on this date. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 13:29, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good. Grimes2 (talk) 14:53, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Ready, IMHO. Flip^andFlopped ツ 00:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 01:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Miho Nakayama

Article: Miho Nakayama (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:7956:811C:CEEE:B7FD (talk · give credit)
• Updated by AlphaBetaGamma (talk · give credit) and VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Japanese actress and singer. 240F:7A:6253:1:7956:811C:CEEE:B7FD (talk) 10:22, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. The article's body looks good generally (although I am unsure about the reliability of some sources), but the filmography/TV series list is completed uncited. ForsythiaJo (talk) 21:38, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose The ginormous tables at the end of the article need to be cited somehow. Flip^andFlopped ツ 00:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Soft oppose per tables, however, an uncited Filmography hasn't stopped articles being posted before. Scuba 18:53, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes it has, often. Stephen 23:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Not Ready. Very shocked and saddened about her sudden passing but most of the table content in the article needs sourcing. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 06:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• Pretty much everything from Discography onwards remains uncited. Schwede66 03:04, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Stanisław Tym

Article: Stanisław Tym (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WP (in Polish)
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Orange tagged but could be easily expanded and brought to a good standard. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:10, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

• Soft support pending article expansion of course. I'm thoroughly heartbroken. One of the greats of Polish satire and comedy of the last fifty years. I have lots of work over the weekend but I'd love to find the time get the article up to standard. --Ouro (blah blah) 09:29, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose orange tagged. Ping me if the article is ever updated. Scuba 18:52, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. Article is orange tagged and is a stub. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 06:39, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
• No longer orange tagged, but we don't post stubs. Also, the entire works section is unreferenced. Schwede66 02:57, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Maggie Tabberer

Article: Maggie Tabberer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [8], [9]
Credits:

• Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Canley (talk · give credit), JackofOz (talk · give credit) and Erksahin (talk · give credit)

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 Happily888 (talk) 06:34, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support article seems good to me, well-cited. Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:55, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Support properly cited. Scuba 18:52, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Posted charlotte ^👸♥ 22:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

December 5

Portal:Current events/2024 December 5

December 5, 2024 (2024-12-05) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war 2024 Syrian opposition offensives 2024 Hama offensive The Syrian Army says that it has withdrawn from the city of Hama in order to "protect the lives of civilians" after rebel forces enter the city. Rebel forces later begin releasing hundreds of prisoners from Hama's central prison. (MSN) (Ynet) A helicopter is shot down after taking off from Hama Air Base as pro-government forces evacuate the airbase. Another helicopter that took off from the air base makes an emergency landing after being hit. The airbase is later fully captured by the rebels. (Al Jazeera) (YeniSafak) Rebel forces enter the city of Salamiyah in Hama Governorate after reportedly facing no resistance. (SOHR) Rebels capture the town of Qamhana and Jabal Zayn al-Abidin mountain in Hama Governorate. (SOHR) 2024 Homs offensive Syrian rebel forces capture and take military vehicles and ammunition from a Syrian military engineering battalion facility on the outskirts of the city of al-Rastan in Homs Governorate. (SOHR) A Russian jet launches an airstrike on the Rastan Bridge over the Orontes River in an attempt to impede the rebel advance on Al-Rastan. (Pravda) (SOHR) Rebel forces take control of the town of Talbiseh in Homs Governorate as they advance south toward Homs. (SOHR) Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Gaza genocide Amnesty International accuses Israel of committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza. Israel rejects the accusation, referring to Amnesty's statements as "fake news." (Reuters) (Sky News) Kamal Adwan Hospital sieges An Israeli airstrike near the Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza kills a 16-year-old Palestinian boy and injures at least 12 others. (Arab News) Piracy off the coast of Somalia The European Union's anti-piracy mission says that heavily armed Somali pirates have hijacked a Chinese fishing vessel off the coast of Puntland, Somalia. (Reuters) Business and economy German economic crisis German workers' union IG Metall announces they will go on extended strikes next week leading up to a fourth round of negotiations with Volkswagen. (DW) The value of a Bitcoin surpasses US$100,000 for the first time, after increasing 130% in the past year. (CNN) (NBC News) British multinational oil and gas company Shell and Norwegian state-owned company Equinor announce a joint venture to merge their North Sea assets. (Cyprus Mail) (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Cape Mendocino earthquake A 7.0 magnitude earthquake strikes offshore near the northern coast of California, United States. (Weather Channel) Winter of 2024–25 in the Gaza Strip Heavy winter rainfall causes extensive flooding across Gaza, with a majority of tents in several refugee camps being destroyed. (IRC) Eight people are killed when a cargo truck loaded with fertilizers hits pedestrians and crashes into a house in Makilala, Cotabato, Philippines. (Philippine News Agency) Health and environment The Mexican health department reports that thirteen children have died from a bloodstream infection caused by Klebsiella oxytoca found in contaminated IV bags in Mexico state, Mexico. Seven children remain hospitalized. (Al Jazeera) Politics and elections 2024 French political crisis Michel Barnier resigns as Prime Minister of France following the collapse of the Barnier government. (Sky News) Science and technology European Union Space Programme Copernicus Programme The European Space Agency (ESA) successfully launches the Vega C rocket carrying the Sentinel-1C satellite to monitor Earth from the Guiana Space Centre in Kourou, French Guiana, two years after its failed commercial flight. (DW) (European Space Agency) ISRO successfully launches the PSLV-XL rocket carrying the European Space Agency's PROBA-3 satellites from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, Andhra Pradesh, India, in a solar observatory mission to gather data about the Sun's atmosphere. (DW) (El Mundo)

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(Posted) RD: Rachmadi Bambang Sumadhijo

Article: Rachmadi Bambang Sumadhijo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.cnnindonesia.com/ekonomi/20241205191658-92-1174226/menteri-pu-era-habibie-meninggal-dunia-dody-hanggodo-turut-berduka
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Jeromi Mikhael (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Former Indonesian public works minister. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 03:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Weak Support. Short but adequate. If the article could be expanded more, that would be great. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 11:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Midori No Sora: I have expanded the article with new information from newspaper sources. Feel free to take a look at the updated version. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:13, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment After the initial mention, a person should generally be referred to by surname only (MOS:SURNAME) Grimes2 (talk) 17:03, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  Since this is an Indonesian name, usually Indonesian are referred to by their given names. See other Indonesian featured biographical articles here: 1, 2, 3. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 23:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  SE Asia is mentioned generically at MOS:GIVENNAME. —Bagumba (talk) 15:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Bagumba:  Done Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:01, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Meets requirements. Grimes2 (talk) 12:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose One-sentence lead needs a few more sentences.—Bagumba (talk) 15:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Bagumba:  Done Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

• @Stephen: Is it possible to take a look at this and see if it fits the requirements to be posted? I've addressed all of the issues. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 01:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted – Schwede66 02:54, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Peter B. Teeley

Article: Peter B. Teeley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Press secretary to Vice President George H. W. Bush and United States Ambassador to Canada. Coined Voodoo economics. Obit published 5 December. Thriley (talk) 06:08, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Soft support stub, but properly cited. Scuba 17:45, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

We do not post stubs, Scu ba. Schwede66 22:33, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Currently at 1491 B (241 words). —Bagumba (talk) 12:20, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Paolo Pillitteri

Article: Paolo Pillitteri (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Notizie
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian politician, film critic, and journalist. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:07, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good to me. I see no issues TheHiddenCity (talk) 21:42, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

• Soft oppose His list of essays is strangely formatted (usually these are a bulled point list at the end of the article), and also not completely cited. There is one footnote from a website called "Spirali" addended to one of the entries that is a source for a handful, but not all of the works listed. Flip^andFlopped ツ 23:58, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Support I don't see any problems. Scuba 18:51, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 22:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Can anyone figure out why the ITN candidate template does not produce a credit link for the nominator? Same as for the post above. Schwede66 23:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Think fixed it.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:06, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

  Wow. That looks like a bug alright! But thanks for mending it; credit is on its way. Schwede66 06:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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