Talk:Courland

A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the On this day section on March 28, 2006.

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Former countries, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of defunct states and territories (and their subdivisions). If you would like to participate, please join the project.Former countriesWikipedia:WikiProject Former countriesTemplate:WikiProject Former countriesformer country articles

Latvia Top‑importance

	Latvia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Latvia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Latvia related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.LatviaWikipedia:WikiProject LatviaTemplate:WikiProject LatviaLatvia articles
Top	This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

I removed the following sentence because I doubt whether that is true.

The Baltic provinces - Estonia, Livonia and Courland - ceased to exist in 1876, to form collectively one general government.

Two different encyclopedias give different claims. 1911 Britannica makes the claim above. 10-volume Latvian Soviet Encyclopedia published in 1980s does not mention that and keeps referring to Estonia, Livonia and Courland as separate provinces until October Revolution. Both of them are fairly respectable sources. Britannica is well known and Latvian Soviet Encyclopedia was written by best Latvian historians of that time.

Is there anything else we can check? The claim really contradicts what I have learned about Latvian history but, since it's from Britannica, I don't quite want to dismiss it without checking carefully. Andris 08:26, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

I checked google and it appears that some change was made in 1876 but the provinces did not cease to exist. The first source[1] says

In 1819 the Russian governments of Courland, Estonia and Livonia were grouped into a Government General. This lasted until 1876 when the three governments again became directly and separately depended of the Russian ministry of Home Affairs.

An online version of 1918 book JAMES W. GERARD. FACE TO FACE WITH KAISERISM says

The three provinces were governed semi-independently, until 1876, when they became in all respects an integral part of the Russian Empire.

I will leave the claim out for now, since I'm less and less sure what actually happened. Feel free to put it back in, if you can decisively research this question. Andris 08:37, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

Population

The article gives good information on what the population breakdown once WAS. Can we have some up-to-date figures, please?

Land of Crane

Please add to the article also Finnish name for Courland which is "Kuurinmaa", also known as "The Land of Crane".

JN

There is a Livonian name in the article and the Finnish name is included in the links. I doubt that the Finnish name is needed in the article, though I'm myself a Finno-Ugric. --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii 12:30, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Independant?

Can we consider Courland a de facto independant state if Liepaja regionalist is the incumbant prime minister of Latvia? --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii 12:22, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:

Kurland6pf20apr1945.jpg

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 20:54, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]